'Bad Lieutenant's' Werner Herzog: Grilled

'Bad Lieutenant's' Werner Herzog: Grilled

Published: November 20, 2009 @ 11:35 am
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By Jordan Riefe

Director Werner Herzog has held actors at gunpoint, been shot in the stomach mid-interview with the BBC, rescued Joaquin Phoenix from a car wreck and -- after losing a bet to documentarian Errol Morris -- feasted on his own shoe. Of course, he’s also known for his brilliant work on such films as “Aguirre: The Wrath of God,” “Fitzcarraldo,” “Nosferatu” and “Grizzly Man.”

His new “Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans,” a revisit of Abel Ferrara’s 1992 classic, features Nicolas Cage as a drug-addled cop in search of cheap sex and a higher high. Herzog talked to TheWrap about the new movie, documentaries and nearly having Klaus Kinski killed -- and he offers advice on how to prepare and eat a shoe.

What’s a shoe taste like?
I do not really recall. I only remember that I cooked the shoe with a lot of garlic stuffed in it, and I cooked it in duck fat, which was the main dish that day. I thought duck fat would create much more temperature until it boiled, until it reached boiling point, which is correct. But it made the leather shrink and made it even tougher, so I could only swallow it down by cutting the leather into small fragments with a pair of poultry shears.

So I had a six-pack of beer and swallowed down, took a swig and a swig and a swig, and I only remember that I was kind of drunk. And I have no clear reminiscence of how it tasted. Man, I was just drunk!
No wonder “Bad Lieutenant” producer Edward Pressman called you the bad lieutenant of filmmakers.
I think it’s a very nice way to express it. Of course, it’s meant ironically, but I’m kind of guerilla style and full of wild fantasies, and that’s a nice compliment.
Don’t you find, though, that if you take chances, you run certain risks that can damage your career?
I don’t care about career. I have no kind of career, I only have my life. I’ve made 50, maybe 60 films by now, and I’m continuing to do it. But sometimes you have to be rogue, you have to be guerilla style.
… And then there’s your famous relationship with Klaus Kinski. A significant portion of his autobiography is dedicated to what a rat you are.
It’s great fun. It’s all invented. It’s the way he would have loved to invent his life and, of course, very much of it is made up.
It’s like one continuous orgy. Most of it’s who he had sex with and how.
Yes, I helped out while he was working on the translation of it. I brought a dictionary, and we found even more violent, more debased expressions.
People have called it a love-hate relationship, but you said, “No …”
I never hated, nor did I love him.
But you did want to kill him.

Tags: Bad Lieutenant, Klaus Kinski, Movies, Nicolas Cage, Werner Herzog
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