Orson Scott Card Won't Make Squat From ‘Ender's Game’ Box Office – Boycott the Book Instead (Exclusive)

Orson Scott Card Won't Make Squat From 'Ender's Game' Box Office – Boycott the Book Instead (Exclusive)

The openly anti-gay author made his movie deal years ago — and there's no backend in it

Progressive people of the world, go ahead and see “Ender's Game” this weekend with a clear conscience: Orson Scott Card won't see a penny of your movie ticket money, TheWrap has learned.

Card's volumes of anti-gay vitriol have sparked an “Ender's Game” movie boycott movement that's spanned multiple organizations, cities and social platforms in the lead-up to the film's Friday release. Their common goal: To prevent the openly homophobic author from pocketing profits at the hands of enlightened moviegoers.

But multiple sources from both inside and outside the companies that produced the “Ender's Game” film – distributor Summit Entertainment, visual effects company Digital Domain and book-rights holder OddLot Entertainment – tell TheWrap that Card's fee has already been paid through a decade-old deal that includes no backend.

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If you really want to hit Card where it hurts, boycott his book instead: Card still profits handsomely from the novel, perched at the top of the latest New York Times Best Seller List for paperback mass-market fiction (right).

Also read: ‘Ender's Game’ Could Win Box-Office Battle but Lose the Franchise-Launch War

Though it was whispered early on that Card's contract had “escalators” – built-in box-office milestones with cash bonuses attached – individuals close to the film say he has no such profit participation.

And though Card takes a producing credit, he had zero say or creative input in the adaptation, according to all those involved with the movie who spoke with TheWrap about “Ender's Game.” That stands in support of the idea that he'll neither gain from its success, nor suffer from its failure.

The ink dried on Card's current deal some 10 years ago, long before the emergence of Hollywood power authors like J.K. Rowling (“Harry Potter”), Stephenie Meyer (“Twilight”), Suzanne Collins (“The Hunger Games”) and E.L. James (“Fifty Shades of Grey”). Those women were outliers, making savvy deals that assured not only major profit participation, but also a major say in all kinds of decisions, from the script to the director to casting the leads.

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Also read: Lionsgate on ‘Ender's Game’ Controversy: Orson Scott Card's Gay Marriage Views Are ‘Irrelevant’

That isn't to say that Card, now a 62-year-old father of five, made a bum deal, wasn't interested in his own material — or didn't reap a king's ransom from optioning “Ender's Game.”

“It changes with every deal depending on the stature of the property and the author, how the picture is going to be financed and balancing all that out to decide if an author wants upfront cash versus backend participation,” said Jason Dravis, president of Monteiro Rose Dravis Agency, which has represented the authors of “The Invention of Hugo Cabret” and “The Hunger Games” in their deals. “There's no set rule or trend that I've seen going one way or the other. It really depends on the individual author's tolerance for risk.”

In Card's case, it came down to a lack of tolerance for the protracted process.

After the book was published in 1985 to critical fanfare, its film adaptation bounced around for years, including an early stop at “Rocky” producer Robert Chartoff's Chartoff Productions, which reportedly paid Card $1.5 million to develop the screenplay himself. He tinkered with it for several years but was never satisfied, and the project eventually landed at Warner Bros. in 2002.

Also read: ‘Ender's Game’ Review: Complex Sci-Fi Adventure That Appeals to Children's Inner Adults

By the time OddLot rescued it from studio development hell a few years later – assigning the screenplay reboot to director Gavin Hood – Card's involvement, both creative and financial, had dissolved to virtually nil. For all intents and purposes, the “Ender's Game” movie was out of his hands.

That hasn't stopped Card from promoting the film on his website, Hatrack.com. This despite the fact that everyone involved with it, including the filmmakers and even star Harrison Ford, have made great pains to distance themselves from Card and his drumbeat of anti-gay rants. Summit/Lionsgate, which paid for less than 20 percent of the film long after Card's involvement was minimalized, has long been recognized as an industry leader in recognizing same-sex partners and unions and promoting workplace diversity, partnered with Equality California for its Los Angeles “Ender's Game” events.

moveon.orgAlso read: Orson Scott Card Compares Obama to Hitler: What Can Summit Do?

Still, Card's sociopolitical views have gotten him in hot water with several groups, perhaps none more vocal or organized than Geeks OUT, which has collected more than 11,000 pledges to boycott the movie on MoveOn.org and has put together “Skip ‘Ender's Game'” events in New York, Toronto, Chicago, Orlando, Dallas, Austin, San Francisco and Seattle (see the petition statement, right).

“Queer geeks have far better things to do with our time and money than line up to profit someone who's spent decades advancing an anti-gay agenda that damages and demeans the LGBT community,” org board member Jono Jarrett told TheWrap.

When informed that Card would not benefit financially from “Ender's Game” box office, Jarrett said it was “regrettable the way the film's publicity has driven up book sales,” but that “I really feel like staying the course for Skip Ender's Game, certainly through our events on Friday … it's about how we as a community respond to the situation.

“If it turns out that the LGBT community's refusal to see ‘Ender's Game’ carries more of a symbolic rejection of Card and his rhetoric than a financial one, I think that's still a powerful message to content providers,” Jarrett said.

Also read: ‘Ender's Game’ Author Orson Scott Card Responds to Boycott: Calls Gay Marriage Issue ‘Moot’

As for those book sales, “Ender's Game” has been a perennial bestseller, and is surely the top source of Card's wealth. But its current No. 1 status has certainly been enhanced by the film's marketing push.

“Having a movie coming out dramatically impacts book sales in a positive way,” Dravis told TheWrap. “I haven't studied what the multiples are on different titles to see if there's any sort of average, but sometimes the economic impact for the author can be quite substantial.”

“Ender's Game” publisher Tor Books, a science-fiction subsidiary of Macmillan Publishers, did not immediately respond to messages left by TheWrap. Attempts to reach Card directly via his literary agent were also unsuccessful. Also declining to comment were Summit/Lionsgate, OddLot Entertainment and Digital Domain.

Jeff Sneider, Brent Lang and Lucas Shaw contributed to this report

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    • I know

      nice plant! This is a great way to get people to go see it…and 100% not true. Mr. Card absolutely has a backend…and a generous one at that!

      • Cameron

        Good for him, he deserves compensation for his great work.

        • oldmanlochinvar

          His work is complete drivel, especially if you read it as an adult.

          • Harvey Throneless King Thornto

            You're joking right?

          • Joseph

            Please, elaborate.

        • Harvey Throneless King Thornto

          He deserves what he was smart enough to work out though I do agree it is great work.

      • Charlee Potts

        You know that “backend” is just a joke waiting to happen, too easy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1301564078 Tom Kidd

    The serial killer John Wayne Gacy made some interesting artwork while he was alive, but would I buy any of it? Nope. So, there you go.

    • Charlee Potts

      Yeah, almost the same thing…

    • LoveInsanity

      Gacy's atrocities actually add monetary value to his art. The opposite is true for Card.

  • Chris

    I'll just boycott both.

    • Charlee Potts

      Well, I'll just boycott everything. Top that.

      • oldmanlochinvar

        That is a fairly childish response. Why is your underwear in a knot if he doesn't want to support Card?

        • Dave

          Because the book is an excellent read and promotes acceptance, among other things. Which I think is why most of us were so shocked to see the author was far from accepting.

          I do find it silly to boycott due to publicity reasons, a silent boycott would have been far more beneficial for your cause, but alas. Too late.

          Boycott the author makes sense, but to boycott the book that will potentially change the perspective of others to your side is just plain silly.

          • BradleyHart

            I said it in my own post but yours is a fine place to reiterate it, but a used copy of the book or get it from the library. There are literally thousands of copies for a penny plus shipping on Amazon. Ebay often has even better deals just bought a box of 200 sci fi novels for $12 (plus shipping) which meant I still paid $0.39 each got the complete Ender's series through Shadow of Hegemon out of it and Orson got shit for my purchase.

          • Elenath

            Agreed. You can support a local book store, read he book if you want and still not line his pockets.

            People here seem willfully ignorant and determined to ignore what people are saying.

            It is not his VIEWS that are the problem, his money funds, endorses, supports and continues hate and hate crimes. If people don't want to fund that then that is not illogical.

  • Elsie

    Why would I spend money on something that would increase his exposure and fame? It's still benefiting him. Not gonna see it, nope.

    • Danathar

      You mean exactly what the boycott has done (increased his exposure and fame?)

      • bggb

        In today's world I don't think the saying, “Any publicity is good publicity” is actually true anymore (if it ever was true).

        I've seen a lot of people (especially my straight friends) who loved Ender's Game the book and had no idea that Card was such a bigot who worked actively to create second-class citizens.

        The boycott may not hurt Card that badly now (thought future deals will almost certainly be different), but it has infinitely raised awareness that Card is a passionate and hateful bigot. So at least now the public knows the full picture.

        And ultimately, that makes the entire boycott and media campaign a success.

        • Danathar

          Go look at the NY time best seller list.

          Ender's game has skyrocketted.

          • bggb

            Because of the boycott?

            No.

      • LoveInsanity

        It has increased his fame, but notoriety is a subset of fame. I for one would never have known he was such a dick until the boycott came about.

      • Jacob Henner

        Why don't you ask Mel Gibson if all exposure is equally valuable

        • Quietus

          He's in the new Machete movie now, isn't he?

          • Jacob Henner

            yup, he used to get leading man roles, now he's lucky to get anything

          • Jacob Henner

            Exactly my point. He used to get leading-man roles; romantic leads, action heroes, etc. Now he's lucky to get anything.

      • liz

        As the poster's below me note, more and more it's becoming that all publicity isn't necessarily good. I haven't read Enders Game for a long time, and I was going to buy the book again to refresh my memory before the movie. After learning more about Card, I've completely changed my plans. I absolutely refuse to support a movie that might lead to other movies being done about his works, even if he doesn't profit from it. Now it is true that I'm curious about whether or not his views show up in the Ender's Game, so I MIGHT read the novel. However if I do so, I will only purchase a novel second hand or borrow it from a friend or family member. I will NOT purchase anything that will cause him to gain profit. And this is coming from a straight women who has never been extremely active in the LGBT rights movement, but who still supports the movement and believes that they deserve equal rights as much as every other human being does. I can only imagine how much Card's actions have hurt people within the LGBT community, and feel that they have every right to express how upset they are at what he's done.

        • any_variation_of_Yoder

          So you are actively trying to stifle his voice and opinions or at least make a token gesture of it?

          • Elenath

            HE is actively trying to stifle the rights of other people. It is not just his opinions as a problem but him funding hate campaigns.

            If you give him money he WILL use it to lobby against giving equality to people based on his own personal prejudices.

            Refusing to help fund that is not ‘stifling’ him. He is entitled to his opinions, however hateful they may be.

            Honestly, I don't even think we would be having this conversation if he was a Neo Nazi and his group was lobbying for the re-introduction of segregation between black and white people in America.

            Would you throw a tantrum if people didn't want to financially support that?

          • any_variation_of_Yoder

            … I've thrown a tantrum …. Riiiiight. If gay marriage were a “right” then it wouldn't be an issue.

          • Elenath

            You're actually going with that? Because at no point in history has any group ever been denied their basic rights? Never had to fight for them? Really?

    • Up and Over

      I feel the same way about Sean Penn movies.

  • Cameron

    Enders Game is the best sci fi book ever written. Orson is a Mormon and has aright to his beliefs. Dr. Seuss was a pervert but people still love his kids books. This PC crap has got to stop.

    • Elsie

      He has a right to his beliefs, and a right to say all the horrid things in public he has said.

      The rest of us have a right to respond by refusing to spend our ducats increasing his fame. That in no way infringes on his right to publicly be a bigoted asshole.

      • Cameron

        Bobby Fisher was the BEST chess player ever, however most people don't know what a huge anti-semite he was. AND THEY DONT CARE. Art stands on it's own. When you try to throw “background” in to a piece of art to refute it, you like like an idiot. You know Wagner? Great operas, horrible person.

        • alikhat

          I always wonder about people who evince undue concern for the financial welfare of bigots. Unless you happen to own stock in Lionsgate, whether people go to see this movie or not should be of absolutely no consequence to you.

          It's been my experience, however, that those who squawk about censorship and unfair treatment of intolerant scumbags the loudest are the ones who share said intolerant scumbag's bigotry. Championing Card, then, becomes kind'a like standing up for your own sorry, backward hate-mongering. You aren't the least concerned about Card's dubious “art”, you're concerned his bigotry – and yours – is becoming socially unacceptable.

          • Shane

            Mighty presumptuous of you, alikhat.

          • alikhat

            Experience plus evidence (ample, inanely proudly waved evidence, at that) equals informed conclusion, not presumption.

          • rangerider

            :-) Sure it does :-)

          • JohnThackr

            So all the people who complained loudest about blacklisting Communist sympathizers were secretly Communist sympathizers themselves? Way to make McCarthy's point.

            I disagree with Card, just as I disagree with Communists. (Communists, on net, have killed quite a few more people and taken away more rights.)

            The Hollywood blacklist was also “voluntary.” And the book Ender's Game is great art, just as Dalton Trumbo made great art despite having despicable opinions.

          • LoveInsanity

            Alikhat is saying that people who have no financial interest in a matter and yet still get huffy when a boycott happens are getting huffy because they stand by the beliefs of the entity facing the boycott. When those beliefs are not popular, then they play the “I support free speech” card. They should actually be playing the “I'm totally transparent” card instead.

            Alikhat is not dropping the “anti-gay people are secretly gay” line. Although it often does have merit.

            If Card was gayer than Christmas at Elton John's house and evangelical Christians said they'd boycott it, my opposition to the boycott would come from the heart. I wouldn't try to dress it up as something it's not. Free speech? Give me a break.

          • alikhat

            I'd say, “Nice job trying to change the subject”, but it's too piss poor a job to even pretend admiration.

            Your example is what we who read like to call, a “false analogy”. Equating a government-run witch hunt that destroyed the lives of many people – most of whom were neither Communists nor sympathizers – with a voluntary public boycott of a well-known, self-avowed, proudly hateful homophobe who financially supports, speaks on behalf of and has membership in toxically vicious anti-LGBT organizations is absurd.

            But then, I suspect you know full well how absurd it is. You're just shameless about being intellectually dishonest when it's the only argument you have.

          • Jose Fabian

            Or maybe I just want to see a sequel to the movie I liked.

          • alikhat

            Ah, the argumentum selfishus stupidum assholium! Always a favorite.

          • Jose Fabian

            Guess what, I've got a favorite too! It's called “ad hominem” only this is in real Latin.

          • alikhat

            I calls ‘em as I sees ‘em. But thanks for reaffirming the view.

        • Jacob Henner

          Yup, that's why I never buy anything where the money goes back to Wagner. I never buy chess from Fisher, either.

        • Jacob Henner

          Also, it's hilarious that you (correctly) state that almost nobody knows what a jerk Fisher was, and yet simultaneously claim that they don't care…! How could they care about something that they have no idea exists. For all we know, if somebody DID know, they would care. You can't have it both ways. It's like saying that, since the public has been largely unaware of NSA spying for the last 10 years, THEY DON'T CARE about it. Of course, the instant they found out, they sure cared!

          ps IT'S??!?! IT'S??!?!?! LOOOOOOL
          http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apostrophe

        • Jacob Henner

          “most people don't know what a huge anti-semite he was. AND THEY DONT CARE.”

          Do they not know, or do they not care? You can't have it both ways

        • Matt Rogers

          The Internet wasn't ubiquitous in Bobby Fisher's heyday, so information didn't spread as quickly and freely as it does today. I think that's a large part of why Fisher's antisemitism was less of an issue than Card's homophobia. It sure beats the notion that moviegoers who stand up for equal rights are “acting like an idiot.”

    • Charlee Potts

      Agreed. Nobody cared back in 1985, why bother now? We've somehow timeslipped into Orwell's “1984”.

      • Niala Terrell-Mason

        It wasn't well known in 1985. Living in the digital age means that info like that is much more accessible and much harder to hide than it used to be.

        • rangerider

          BS, Card has had a web site for years and has had articles published for years. Just militant gays being militant :-)

          • Niala Terrell-Mason

            “For years” is still pretty recent. Certainly not for the first 15+ years. And it was via his website that I found out about his views, but that was in the late 2000s. Like 2008. And how many people are going to discover or read his articles??

      • Harvey Throneless King Thornto

        There is a grave difference between not allowing someone to have independent thought, and showing your disagreement for someones to be perfectly honest embarrassing and offensive thoughts. Yes he is free to think those things and technically he is free to attempt to restrict peoples rights but that doesn't mean we must support or show support to him in any way. Though it's all moot because I'll be seeing the movie even if he is an assmunch.

    • Kenta

      It's more about his active participation in anti-LGBT causes that concern people, not just his beliefs. Frank Miller isn't too keen on gay people either, but doesn't make too big of a deal about it anymore, and you don't hear many calls to boycott the Sin City or 300 sequels. It also helps if the artist is dead. I love the works of H. P. Lovecraft, but the man was considered an extreme racist even by the standards of his day.

      And Enders Game = best sci-fi book ever? Ehhhh, really? I mean, I loved the hell out of it when I was 13, but.. You might want to give some Issac Asimov, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, Robert A. Heinlein, William Gibson, or Phillip K. Dick a read.

      • Ambient_Malice

        Ender's Game is generally ranked among the top 3 science fiction novels of all time, above the works of Arthur C. Clarke and Philip K. Dick.

        Amusingly, Philip K. Dick was a strong pro-lifer, and allegedly donated to anti-abortion groups. Thankfully, this didn't lead to mean-spirited boycotts by intolerant people.

        • Jacob Henner

          It's not intolerant or “mean-spirited” to just choose not to buy something. I mean, forced commerce? What's next, an individual mandate?

        • Kenta

          It's one of the top selling Sci-fi books of all time, yes. Just like Twilight is currently one of the most popular fantasy/supernatural romance novels around.

          And Dick was an oddball, no denying that. But he's also no longer with us. Are royalties to his books still being used to fund causes that some people would object to?

        • Matt Rogers

          “Thankfully, this didn't lead to mean-spirited boycotts by intolerant people.”

          That's a classic example of projection. There's nothing mean-spirited or intolerant about opposing mean-spirited intolerance to the point of not seeing a movie.

      • CrypticMirror

        You nailed it. Ender's Game is the “Greatest SF work eva!!” when you are thirteen, mainly because it is about the lonely genius of the disenfranchised pre-teen. It is tailormade for the disenfranchised nerd of the 80s and 90s to self-insert themselves into it. Once you grow up a bit, it pales very quickly.

    • Niala Terrell-Mason

      Um. This isn't just about his opinion. He has actively hurt LGBT folks with his MONEY and he sits on the board of a recognized hate organization (NOM).

      • Ambient_Malice

        Orson Scott Card is a former board member of NOM. NOM are not recognised as a hate group. There is zero direct evidence of Card donating to “anti-gay” groups, as people put it.

        • Jacob Henner

          You may not agree that NOM is a “hate group,” but I think even THEY would agree that they are anti-gay. They might hide behind some “hate the sin, not the sinner” language, but they will gleefully tell anyone who will listen that they are opposed to the “homosexual lifestyle,” and I think that is a fair synonym for “anti-gay”

          • Jacob Henner

            Otherwise you're getting away with saying “Oh I'm not against YOU, just the things you do”

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          • rangerider

            Is that like those that support the troops, but not the mission or we are doing it for the children :-)

          • Matt Rogers

            The difference is that gay relationships can't be meaningfully separated from gay people themselves. Any normal gay person has gay relationships. In contrast, a trooper can go on a different mission and still be a trooper.

          • rangerider

            Oh, the poor gays, they are hurt because all do not support their lifestyle :-) Oh! Woe :-)

          • Jacob Henner

            Are you assuming I'm gay or something? You are stupid if you think that because I support marriage equality I must be gay. Roughly 55% of the country supports same-sex marriage, yet only 2-5% of the country is gay. Therefore, there are 20x more straight people who support it than gay people. If all you knew about somebody was that they supported marriage equality, it's 20x more likely that they are straight. Math.

          • rangerider

            I have no idea as to your sexual preference and do not care even if you prefer animals, insects I am not sure :-) My comment was the general illness of your short sided point of view. Myself I could not care less if gays marry. I am against gays getting married benefits for such a nihilistic lifestyle, that contributes little to society. I spent 20 plus years in a gay area of Seattle, had gay friends and worked with many gays, without a problem. Many of them also thought government sponsored marriage was silly.

            I would think many are in support of Gay marriage, when asked, in order not to have to get in to a hassle over their views. Thanks to all the propaganda that we have been beat over the head with who can blame them. The militant gays are no better than Dear Leaders minions. Oh! Wait! They are his minions :-)

          • Jacob Henner

            Wow. Just wow. So you have nothing against gays, except their “nihilistic lifestyle” which contributes “little to society”. And somehow you “couldn't care less,” while simultaneously being against it. Add the obligatory references to your gay friends, and the accusation that your opponents are just bowing to the pressure to be PC (couldn't the opposite be true in the south? people being anti-gay just so they don't get hassled over their views?), and you've hit the bigotry trifecta

          • rangerider

            And you are what I would consider a Lumpenproletariat responder. I can like or not like gays until I meet them. You re saying that I am ant-gay since I am against some gay policies. What a winner and so smart you are. Oh! There is nothing obligatory about truth as there is nothing bigoted about truth. I would think you a POS trying to attack one that does not hold your truth :-)

          • Jacob Henner

            No, I am calling you anti-gay, because you consider them to have a “nihilistic lifestyle” (why because they can't procreate? What a narrow view of social utility) and because you think they contribute “little to society” (again, why? see above parenthetical…) And the reference to “militant gays,” and on and on…Yes, you are an anti-gay bigot, and the fact that you would dance around that fact by attempting to split hairs is just sad. “Oh I'm not against gays, just their policies, lifestyle, and gestapo-like tactics”. Real convincing.

            As for the rest of your comment, I can't even understand it (” I can like or not like gays until I meet them”…uh, then what happens after you meet them…?), so I won't bother refuting nonsense.

          • Jim in MN

            I seem to recall another individual who felt he could group people into those that “contributes little to society” and he frequently talked about “nihilistic lifestyles”, but for the life of me I can't remember his name… I seem to recall something about genocide and ovens, though.

          • rangerider

            Probably a relative of yours ?

          • Matt Rogers

            No, they are harmed because people like Card spend millions of dollars to harm them.

        • Niala Terrell-Mason

          Okay, fine. He has resigned so he is a former board member (very recently resigned). A lot of his personal wealth went into NOM and NOM used it to try and prevent legal rights for LGBT people. How is that “zero direct evidence of Card donating to ‘anti-gay’ groups”??

    • oldmanlochinvar

      Give me Scalzi's work anytime over Card.

      • CrypticMirror

        True, but give me Ken MacLeod, Iain M Banks, or Stephen Baxter over both (although admittedly the gap twixt Card and Scalzi is an ocean [of stars]). Heck, even give me that old perv Jack L Chalker over OSC. At least Chalker knew how to have fun with his characters.

    • medcannabis1

      and so was Hitler and Stalin and they had a “right to their beliefs…. I can hardly understand your logic and calling a bigot a bigot and not supporting their efforts to give them a platform to spew their hate is a worthy effort.

    • ReadMoreBooks

      Actually “Dune” by Frank Herbert is the best Sci Fi book ever written…Ender's Game doesn't even come close. Sorry bud.

    • Matt Rogers

      OSC gives huge financial support to anti-equality causes. I'm of the opinion that money and beliefs are two different things.

  • Richard

    Even if Card doesn't make any more money from the movie itself, there are the potential profitable sequels to think about…

    Opinions are one thing; but when Card actively worked on the board of NOM to pass the Prop 8 initiative banning same sex marriage in California and supported a similar initiative in North Carolina (Prop 1), he became an active participant in discrimination and an influential figure in the fight against gay rights.

    Of course the movie or his books shouldn't be banned, but as a gay man I won't be guilted into watching his movie just to show I am for free speech.

    • Charlee Potts

      But you're still boycotting it for the opposite reason? Do you make all your entertainment choices based on your sexuality and the creators’ opinions?

      • Cameron

        Great comment, good to see at least one person has common sense.

      • Kenta

        It's not just about “sexuality”. I'm sure Richard would one day like to marry and share his life with the person that sets his heart aflutter and whose side he never wants to leave.

        If it were just a matter of Card having a different opinion, then it wouldn't be an issue. But he actively funds and works with groups that fight tooth and nail to make sure people like Richard never get that right-a right that us straight people take for granted and never have to fear losing or having questioned.

        As you said, it's just “entertainment”. And I can understand why it would leave a bad taste in the mouths of LGBT people to know there is a direct link between the money they spend and the effort to keep them as second class citizens.

        • mbman

          I always have to laugh at the hypocrisy that is the LGBT movement. While I understand where you are coming from with your post. That the film is supported by someone who actively works against the LGBT community and because of that no one should darken the theater that shows it I find it reeking of a double standard.
          There are a number of companies and ‘Hollywood’ types that do support equal right for LGBT folks. When a conservative group attempts to do the same thing the LGBT community is trying to do with this movie they are called bigots, etc.
          Personally, I believe that folks should be able to believe what they want. If we all truly knew what the company or persons involved believed in the product we buy we wouldn't be buying much at all.
          I also believe that LGBT's should have equality. Does that mean I believe in gay marriage? No. I like to hold that some traditions shouldn't change. What needs to happen is a new tradition created one that's more inclusive but offers the same privileges and benefits. But, then again, it's my opinion and belief and I'm sure there are many who wouldn't agree (both within the LGBT and conservative communities).

          • Joe

            Thank you!

          • bbock

            It's not just about marriage. Card is on the board of NOM, an organization that has now spread beyond the US into areas other that marriage. They have flown a few times to Russia in support of the anti-gay (not just marriage) laws in Russia. They are in support of taking away the children of gay couples in Russia and to deny adoptions to gays. They are expanding their influence and their slate of issues and are making the world a more dangerous place for gays and lesbians. And Orson Scott Card is right at the heart of this movement.

          • Kenta

            My point wasn't to say that “no one should see this movie and anyone who does supports bigotry” or anything like that. I was replying to a comment and general attitude here of “What's the big deal?” and “Why do you let your sexuality dictate your choice of entertainment?” I was trying to illustrate why LGBT people would take great offense by Card's activism and want to avoid anything he is associated with and be vocal about that choice.

            I personally don't like to throw the word “Bigot” around as much as some people do on the issue, but saying that boycotts called for by the other side are motivated by bigotry isn't the same thing as saying that they're not allowed to do it. I agree that groups on the other side have a right to boycott as well, like when 1 Million Moms wanted to boycott J.C. Penny for hiring a lesbian spokesperson. One side is motivated by the notion that there is no rational reason to discriminate against certain relationships, the other argues that secular laws should continue to do some purely because of religion and tradition. You disagree, and that's fair.

            Honestly, I'm personally in favor in making Marriage a private contact matter that the government isn't involved in. But as long as the state wants to keep its monopoly on it, they better be ready to never hear the end of calls for equality.

          • Matt Rogers

            One difference between the two sides is that people like Card are actively working to harm LGBT people. In contrast, the LGBT movement isn't trying to harm anyone. Yes, the two groups are treated differently, but it's because they're doing very different things.

            Although some conservative groups boycott pro-LGBT entertainment, that isn't why they're seen as bigots. The groups that are seen as bigots are the ones that amply demonstrate their bigotry by, again, actively working to cause people harm.

          • nikflorida

            [paraphrase] “what needs to happen is ‘separate but equal.'” Um, the SCOTUS decided many decades ago that “separate is inherently unequal.”

        • Julie

          So it is ok for George Takai to donate to LGBT organizations and to policitical causes and thats ok, but since Card disagrees with you he doesn't have that right. I get really tired of people on both sides of the issue proving that intolerance is just fine for anyone who doesn't agree with you.

          • Jacob Henner

            If George Takei made a movie, you bet your buns that the National Organization for Marriage and tons of others would boycott it, and they would have every right to. Nobody, absolutely nobody, thinks that Card doesn't have the right to do what he does. And the people who boycott him absolutely have the right to do that too. Freedom. America.

          • Julie

            They do have that right, but some commenters on this sit e seem to think that he should not have that right. Everyone has a right to their opinion, boycott, or whatever, but Card has that right too. It seems to me that many of Cards opponents are just as closed minded as he is.

          • Jacob Henner

            Point out to me one single commenter who said that he shouldn't have the right to speak out and fund anti-gay organizations

          • faden

            There is no difference to denying ones right to free speech and screems to boycott this movie, Card's book, and or the fare of other likeminded citizens. It is a means to “silence” someone thru fear of personal or finacial harm. Free speech is free. That means people are allowed to say and write things you disagree with.

          • Ryan

            Wait… that works both ways… if causing someone Financial “harm” is a way to “silence” him… then why don't I, as a person who disagree with his views, don't have the option to boycott anything he makes?

          • Nikflorida

            “free speech” has to do with organized censorship and that sort of thing… saying you have no right to SAY something is a very different thing than saying I have a right to refuse to listen to it.

          • StoptheMadness

            Can we stop with the “America is a free country” rhetoric? In the beginning it restricted the right to vote to property owning white males. It had slaves. A century or so later it had segregation. Today it has espionage, terrorist watch lists. You can't drink until 21, you can't drink in public. Freedom of speech? No, surveillance and harassment instead. Social mobility is almost non-existent. Prison population is the highest in the world. It has never been and will never be a “free” country.

          • Jacob Henner

            Those are all complete non-sequitors, but I'm not saying I disagree. Even with all the problems you mention, we are still free to support the organizations we choose, whether pro or anti gay, and we are also free to organize boycotts or speak out in other ways.

          • faeden

            a boycott is a means to stifle free speech. It is a fear tactic to keep people silent. If you think its unfair that gays cant marry in the Untied States you should try living in the Middle East where they just stone you to death. Nobody here is keeping you from living with one another. Most of us just dont care and we dont want to know!

          • Ryan

            Non-sequitors… that's all your post is.

          • nikflorida

            Very plainly put: a boycott is the most libertarian of all efforts. It's the very epitome of “free market” mechanisms. Are you suggesting, then, that we should FORCE people to subscribe to things they vehemently disagree with?

          • kfBob

            Maybe a trip to any arab country, Japan, china, taiwan, or most European countries would help your limited experience. Not one country in Europe comes close to the 1st amendment of the Constitution. Please study a bit before espousing such opinions.

          • Rose Author

            I think you have it right Julie. It's not as if OSC had denied anyone their choices. He just has his personal beliefs based on his faith/scriptures.

            If I based all my choices on 99% of Hollywood's behavior and ridiculous comments I would forego all of TV/MOVIES/NEWS.. yeah.. Everything.

            I only boycott people who infringe my freedoms.. not those who disagree with my life choices.

            I do not always agree with OSC or any other author or producer or director, actor or stunt-person… I just don't want to support those who make LAW impeding my freedom.

          • Ryan

            I'm sorry you don't have the convictions to match your views. That's not to say that those of us that don't want to support him.

          • Cory James Hinman

            Takei isn't denying people the right to pledge to love and serve one-another for a lifetime because he objects to their very identity. Intolerance of the intolerant is perfectly legitimate.

          • Bryan Derp

            If you can separate marriage from the institution that condemns you, surely you can separate art of the from the author that condemns you. Marriage is not a right, it is a spiritual union in a religious institution. There are rights that do come with marriage and those are things you should all be fighting for if you wish for equality. I find it funny you will boycott films and chicken joints because their owners are homophobic, yet you all want to perform a ritual created by the most homophobic institution of all…

          • faeden

            Yup…here here! Hypocrits abound

          • JamesTroia

            George doesn't go around saying straight people shouldn't be able to get married.

            He doesn't go around saying that because someone is different to someone else that they should have less rights.

          • Hotaru Tomoe

            Orson Scott Card has every right to make whatever films, books or say anything he wants to say. People that disagree with him also have the right not to support his causes or give him money to donate. People boycott and talk about things like this publically to let people make an informed decision. Nobody (sane) is saying shut him up. Just letting others know where their dollars are ending up. Same with Chick Filet.

          • http://www.facebook.com/LostInSpaceMan Steve Armstrong

            Nobody's saying Card doesn't have a right to say the fucked up shit he says or do the fucked up shit he does. All we're saying is we have the right to not Finance his fucked up lifestyle! Capish?

          • Joseph

            I hate to break it to you, but every dollar you spend is supporting something that you don't agree with, either directly or indirectly.

          • http://www.facebook.com/LostInSpaceMan Steve Armstrong

            Be that as it may, If I know about any direct support, I can choose not to spend there. Indirect support I can't do anything about. I still reserve the right to be an informed consumer.

          • Nikflorida

            You're missing the point. There is no fight for STRAIGHT marriage rights. No effort to ENHANCE the rights of straight people; only to RESTRICT the rights of gay people. Not the same thing at all. That's like saying that the NAACP and the KKK have similar goals.

      • Harvey Throneless King Thornto

        Seeing as just commented on one of your idiotic ravings I'll be less poignant with my wording. What kind of fucking idiot are you? You stupid fuck did even read what the fuck he fucking said you dumb motherfucker “Opinions are one thing; but when Card actively worked on the board of NOM to pass the Prop 8 initiative banning same sex marriage in California and supported a similar initiative in North Carolina (Prop 1), he became an active participant in discrimination and an influential figure in the fight against gay rights.”
        His reservations are about the way Card fights to TAKE AWAY HIS RIGHTS. So how about hopping back to 1919 and vote for someone who will oh wait nevermind.

      • Erasure 25

        Sorry, but this comment is idiotic. It's about trying not to support the works of a person who would like to see me die. It's not a difficult concept. Get your mind out of the gutter — it's not about sexuality. O.S.C. might not see a dime form the film's profits, but a successful film will surely drive book sales and lead studio execs to consider movies on his other books in the series.

        • Jose Fabian

          There's a reason this won't work, and it's because people who boycott the movie won't buy the books anyway, but people who go see it because they don't know about the boycott/don't care will buy the books. So successful film or no, book sales will be the same.

      • medcannabis1

        its called ethics…..

      • Richard

        Think of my choice not to see Card's movie as a vote against him and what he stands for. I will not take any chances in financially supporting a man who actively fights against the civil rights of gay people. This is not a boycott, it is my conscience.

        As for my entertainment choices, I wouldn't be entertained knowing I had possibly contributed to his financial success by paying to see his movie.

        By the way, I work at a library and often recommend the Ender novels to adults and young adults who are looking for reading ideas. I do not stop anyone from enjoying his novels and I am happy to help people find entertaining stories.

        With some empathy, you might understand why I am electing to use my right not to see his movie and why I am saying so in this forum.

        • Danathar

          If you dig into deep enough into just about every movie made there is SOMEBODY working/producing/creating on it that will probably have views you don't like.

          Same with TV.

          I'd like to point out that a ticket to Ender's game will probably put more money into pro-gay causes then EVER (if any) goes to Card. There are a LOT of gay supporters including cast on that film who will get MILLIONS.

          Your ticket will contribute to THAT, not card.

          In effect by NOT going to the movie you are withholding more money from gay causes than contributing to anti-gay ones. (that's my take on it)

          • Richard

            If Orson Scott Card only had views I didn't like, that would not stop me from seeing the movie. It is the fact he is an active participant in denying civil rights to people like me. Not only that, he potentially will financially benefit from this movie (or possible sequels if it is successful) and use more of his money to fight against civil rights for gays as he has done in the past.

            As for others in the cast and producers of the movie who support gay rights, I will go see other movies instead… I go out to the movies every week, so my money will help all those potential supporters. My conscience will be clear.

            I can only do what is right for me, others can do as they wish… but for me, my logic and my feelings tell me this is the right thing to do.

          • Joseph

            Well said.

      • in thebusiness

        Charlee- get real- of course we would voice againt a homophobic prick…..do you believe in standing up for anything??

    • Danathar

      Not from the Ender's game line of books, the rest of the books in the series are totally unfilmable and not YA war novels.

      • bbock

        They said this one was unfilmable. That didn't stop them.

        • Danathar

          Of all the books Ender would be the EASIEST. Speaker for the Dead and Xenocide as movies? HA! That will be the day.

          • Joseph

            Ender's Shadow has awesome movie written all over it. As does Shadow of The Hegemon.

          • BradleyHart

            Those stories are great, but could never be sequels to this movie as the EG movie gutted everything that made those stories possible

    • mibtp

      So what you're doing is not discrimination of people who don't agree?

    • Gyles

      Are we really going to start judging works of art by the artists themselves? Once we go down that road, so much good literature would have to be boycotted. JD Salinger => Total POS, Hemmingway => Total POS. But guess what, they wrote great stuff. Learn how to separate the 2.

    • faeden

      Your loss…The movie is excellent, entertaining, and has nothing to do with gay issues.

    • BradleyHart

      Actually there aren't potential sequels. Those books have been written and the movie gutted everything from the story that would have made those novels potential sequel movies.

  • Dan Humphrey

    If it does so well the studio orders a sequel, will Card benefit then? Did he sign away rights to followup films with the same characters/set in the same universe?

    • Gojiro

      No he didn't sign away any rights. He retains ownership of his characters and the world he created. I doubt very much if Card isn't getting any backend. It's standard to get backend even ten years ago. I do recall a certain author who wrote about a boy Wizard getting final say in the script and profit participation in her film's adaptations about ten years ago. Card has a similar deal.

      Personally I won't see the movie in Theaters because it looks really lame. The new trailer with Ender crying doesn't help.

      I'll spend my $14 on Thor: The Dark World next week. Ender's Game is just a dvd rental sometime next year or maybe never.

      • nikflorida

        Indeed. It's an EXCELLENT book series, but I actually saw the film and frankly I was really let down. From a deconstructionist point-of-view, incidentally (and, I suppose, only tangentially relevant to all this) people suggest that the story itself typifies OSC's anti-gay stance because the “villains” are called “buggers” and the whole book is about destroying the “buggers.”
        That is, of course, very short-sighted and a load of crap. The lesson of the whole series is that the destruction of the buggers in the first book was a grave error that was caused by not understanding them. Amazingly, having gained some understanding of the DIFFERENT creatures, the characters discovered that they were NOT malicious or dangerous at all, but very USEFUL… so much so that later, when “Jane” is facing destruction, the cooperation between the species is crucial to their problem-solving mission. It's exactly the opposite of NOM's stance.

    • Matt Rogers

      He would probably profit from a sequel, since it likely would be based on another book in the series. He's also a producer of this movie, and I'm sure he's paid well in that role.

  • Ryan Joseph

    Counterpoint – it's a hell of a lot more poignant for me to attack the pocketbooks of anyone who's affiliated to him, than it is just to target him, alone.

    • Danathar

      You do realize that more money from the film will be going to gay supporters than Card? Your boycott takes money out of cast and crew that support those causes than goes (if any) to Card.

      • Matt Rogers

        All movies have cast and crew that support equality. I don't have to support Card in order to support a cast and crew.

      • Jacob Henner

        The cast and crew have already been paid. That money was part of the budget of the movie, and it's already been spent and paid. If the movie does well or if it flops, it won't make any difference to their wallets. At least, for 99.9% of the cast and crew – I don't doubt that a very select few (the stars, the director) may get big bonus payments if the movie does well

      • nikflorida

        Unless, of course, he takes the same money he would have spent on a movie ticket and donates it directly to a “pro-gay” group. Which many people are committing to do.

  • KF22

    LOL, you sheep are so weird the way you herd in one direction or the other listening to someone else's list. You want to watch the movie because you think it's cool, or not because the author isn't PC. So instead of judging the book by its cover, or the author, take it on its merits. WHICH IT DOESN'T HAVE. It is horrid Sci-Fi, makes as much sense as one of the stupid zombie ones, I don't care if its sold a lot, so have disposable diapers.

    • rangerider

      You just do not like the book :-) Than you ought not have read it :-0 I just bought it again to read before seeing the film and would not care if who wrote it, since it is a wonderful story :-)

  • chuck

    Gaaaaayyyyyy

  • Jacob Henner

    What about the sequels? What about the merchandise? What about the boost to the book sales? What about future book contracts?
    Sorry, not yet convinced. Also, it just looks bad; John Carter, anyone?

  • HQB

    “The ink dried on Card’s current deal some 10 years ago, long before the emergence of Hollywood power authors like J.K. Rowling (“Harry Potter”) [...]”

    J. K. Rowling sold the rights to the first Harry Potter books in 1999, and the first movie came out in 2001. So this deal for Ender's Game came several years *after* Rowling's deal, not before.

  • MiketheHuman

    I like Harrison Ford. There are ass holes, murderers, rapist, child molesters, thief's, bigots, racists, terrorists, serial killers, dictators, bad parents, cheating wives and husbands, among us all, and many in the entertainment industry, as well as sports, and everything else you read, watch, listen to, and praise. Harrison Ford may be one of the above for all anyone knows! I like to be entertained. Scott Card is a dick! He isn't the first nor the last. Many commentators here are some of the above. We live in a society full of shitty people. Lets stop pretending that there are just a few. Boycott everything. Stop buying your wife diamonds from some country where children died digging it up. PLEASE! I read the book and enjoyed it, and will watch the movie.. I hope its good and I hope there will be sequels. I loved Road Warrior, but I”m not going to stop watching it because Mel Gibson is a racist. I support equal rights, gay people, freedom of speech (even though a lot of bad speech is directed at my blackness lol! Welcome to humans. Eff Scott Card, but a lot of people who are in the movie and helped make it will suffer because of one of many ass holes in the world (Scott card), so yeah, lets all band together and ruin hard working actors and actresses careers because of an ass hole… My opinion.

    • Piggly Wiggly

      This was the comment I was hoping for. Thank you for using your mind.

      • rangerider

        You were waiting for someone to call names ?

      • MiketheHuman

        Well a lot of people are looking for scape-goats for everything or someone to be mad at or hurt back or whatever.. Scott Card is one of millions of ass holes among us. Entertainment is entertainment to me and nothing else.

    • sftroybob

      “. . . a lot of people who are in the movie and helped make it will suffer because of one of many ass holes in the world . . . ”

      and every one of those people chose to gamble that card's homophobic activism could be easily overcome with a few interviews and press releases. it's not our responsibility to reward that conscious decision.

      • Jacob Henner

        More importantly, all those 99% of people who worked on it, the crew (SFX guys, lighting, grips, catering, etc), already got paid! That was part of the budget of the movie! None of them are going to benefit if the movie does well, and none of them are going to hurt if it flops.

        • MiketheHuman

          Understood. My point is that there are bad people who are involved in everything you eat, sleep on, watch, read, and everything else. Everyone has a right to do what they want. I'm not against that. I just don't agree with boycotting the movie. I enjoyed the book, I want to see the movie. I don't care about Card. The movie and books exist now and will longer than you or I will live. Boycotting it doesn't destroy the move and make it go away. I can appreciate that everyone has an opinion (good or bad, and even that's depending on your point of view). Some people hate the president (not including me)…should they leave the country? Some things are here, and we just deal with it until no one cares .. Scott card will die one day and he will only be missed by his people, and blacks, whites, gays, Muslims, Jews and every other hated group will still be hated after that ass hole dies, and the movie will still be here

  • jc

    INCORRECT! There are other books in the series and if this one does well
    he could gain a handsome sum from a probable FRANCHISE. Your article is
    little more than ignorant propaganda. See the film, don't see the film.
    That's up to the individual. But don't mislead moviegoers about Card's
    earning potential.

    • CrypticMirror

      And even if the current books are, as some folk claim, unfilmable (and if LotR/Life of Pi/Cloud Atlas et al have taught us one thing in the last decade it is no work is unfilmable these days), Hollywood has no shortage of screenwriters who will be only to happy to ghostwrite a filmable sequel while the production company gets its checkbook out to pay Card for the rights to use the universe. Or maybe they'll just make the check out straight to whatever anti-gay/anti-trans saber-rattler OSC is propping up at the time.

  • Donna

    On a personal note, OSC is a real A-hole when you meet him. He was cruel to some writer friend/fans of mine who met him at a college function. They had tattoos and he made some comment about “lepers” and wouldn't shake their hands or speak with them.

    Great writer, nasty person. I don't buy his books any more.

  • Calvin Guimaraes

    I apologize in advance if this comes off insensitive in any way.

    Who gives a fuck. Regardless if he's a homophobic dick, the book is still amazing, and I hope the movie will be too. I don't get how these are even related, he doesn't like gays, thus you must boycott everything hes done, I would't pay him for his thoughts on sexuality, but to read his books or watch a movie based on one, definitely. The merit of his writing shouldn't be effected by how he feels about homosexuals. Its childish and stupid it just shouldn't fucking matter. I assume hes not the only person ever to write a science fiction book or produce a movie that dislikes homosexuals, why is everyone freaking out about this. Seriously why does it matter.

    • bggb

      If you actually care why it matters, there's plenty of very thoughtful writing out there explaining why it matters to LGBT people and their allies to not give money to or support people who promote bigotry.

      It may not matter to YOU, but your attempts to invalidate the opinions of others is indeed insensitive, “childish and stupid”.

      Card is free to hold whatever opinions he wants, and the rest of us are free to judge him for it and choose not to support him or his art.

    • jc

      Card has actively campaigned to block and strip LGBT people of their rights. This negative reaction to him and his works isn't about his beliefs. It's about his actions. Many people don't want to lend any financial support to his projects and I can't blame them. The threat of a boycott and the support of industry people got Card tossed off a Superman title for DC. It does matter and it does make a difference.

  • Joeystern

    Along with the other weird issues with this article (“anonymous sources”) Your line about power authors is false. Harry potter was sold in 1999. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_(film_series)

  • bggb

    It's extremely convenient that anonymous sources are able to provide quotes which attempt to make the studio look good and counter-act the boycott of this bigot and his associated works.

    Neat!

    Also, publishing this unsubstantiated nonsense which ignores vast swaths of what the boycott is all about has successfully gotten me and other people to click on your web site.

    Double Neat!

  • JJJ PPP

    Boycott the Book And Movie!!!

  • Razorvine

    You know what, it doesn't matter even if he doesn't get new money from the movie. Making sure this one bombs, means that he won't get optioned for rights for any sequels or anything like that.

  • bookofmatchesmedia

    Hmm.. Ender's Game is a great novel. OSC is a prick. That said, I believe that in America, people can think and feel however they want to feel. They are entitled to their beliefs. OSC isn't just a bigot for the sake of being a bigot, he has certain beliefs that are a part of who is he that compel him to feel the way he does. Now you may not agree with those feelings (I certainly don't) but having those opinions and beliefs doesn't qualify him as someone who should be hated. He's just a flawed man who happens to be a damn good writer. I had to watch The Birth of a Nation in film history this year. It is a horrid piece of white supremacy propaganda. But its also regarded as one of the most technically groundbreaking films in history. The director, D.W. Griffith, was ignorant. His beliefs stemmed from his upbringing in the South as son of a former Confederate soldier. What do you think his belief system might look like? That said, Griffith went on to understand the bigotry and naivety of his worldview and even made another technically great film called Intolerance that explored such behaviors throughout history. Griffith was allowed to be judged, critiqued, reexamined his thinking, and made steps to change it. He can never ERASE The Birth of a Nation from existence, but he can refute it. The problem is OSC, if he even wants to (which is questionable), won't be able to back away from his thoughts or to change his mind. Not in today's world. There's no allowance for people with dissenting views. Once a bigot, racist, intolerant a-hole, always a bigot, racist, intolerant a-hole. There's this air of “holier-than-though” BS that comes through in situations like this, like the people who call for the head of Card (or the livelihood, in this case) have never ever been WRONG.

    Again, I disagree with Card, but perhaps in the face of intolerance we could afford to show a bit of grace and tolerance ourselves? It could make the world a much better place.

    All that being said, I probably won't be seeing this because it looks like a lazy, teal-and-orange Hollywood s***-show that has no idea how to market itself in any other way than “hey, you liked The Hunger Games, right?” So sick of bogus adaptations. It might be good, sure, but I'm not holding my breath.

    • Jacob Henner

      “The problem is OSC, if he even wants to (which is questionable), won't be able to back away from his thoughts or to change his mind.”
      um, BS…? If OSC did a complete 180, he would be hailed as a hero and embraced by the LGBT community. Everybody loves a redemption story, as your DW Griffith tale showed.
      Whenever a Phelps leaves the WBC, or whenever a Rob Portman reverses himself, they get pretty high praise as being willing to admit that they were wrong. Frequently, they then become high-ticket speakers at events and such.

  • sftroybob

    Card himself disputes this in a wired.com interview: “I still have a sequel that I’m working on. In terms of film, Ender’s Game is actually the beginning, not the end. No one will touch anything else of mine until they see how Ender’s Game
    does. Unless the film absolutely tanks, which I’m not expecting, then
    the floodgates could open. I have probably a dozen books that are much,
    much more doable on film than Ender’s Game.” (http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/10/cardqa/)

  • Terry

    I wonder: how many of the same people who shriek about Card's “bigotry” would applaud child molester Roman Polanski for his “artistry”?

    • Alpha 50327

      If Polanski was using money from his films to promote child molestation then yes people would be shrieking. It isn't about OSC's bigoted views. It about the fact that any money he gets from this (via increased book sales, apparently is all he's getting) helps him promote and defend the laws his group promoted that cause actual harm to actual gay people all across the country. Those laws are being struck down by the courts, but the hate groups aren't giving up and bigots like OSC haven't stopped funding them.

      This isn't about separating the art from the artist. It's about the fact that the artist uses money from this work to promote real harm and discrimination against real people.

      He can say what he wants, all he wants. When he starts inflicting actual harm, it's no longer just his opinion.

    • rangerider

      Quite a few, I would expect, since he is a good leftist :-)

  • LondonistanLass

    That's good to know – as a result, I've ordered the two box-sets of the book series, and I will watch the film as well. Thanks!

  • Erasure 25

    Let's not be naive here. A successful movie will drive book sales which will indeed reap profits for bigot O.S. Card. He was also paid $1.5 million in 1996 for the movie rights. A successful movie will also entice the studio execs to do parts 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6… etc. I love all of the apologists for O.S.C. Imagine if O.S.C. were a KKK member. Would we even be having this apologetic discussion? No, he would be shunned entirely. Instead we still have this “its ok he's a homophobe, since he doesn't have any creative input on the movie….” Please.

    Can we all remember that O.S.C. was on the board of NOM, which is a hate group with the sole purpose of preaching hate and denying civil rights for LGBTs? Stop apologizing for him. If you want to see the movie, fine. But if you can't set aside ONE movie for the sake of your LBGT friends, then… whatever. You reap what you sow.

  • Iblis

    So when do we start the campaign to demonize and destroy the great homophobe Alec Baldwin? I'm ready to sign up!

    • Jacob Henner

      Right, because one off-hand unsavory comment is the same as years of time and loads of money

  • BlackBandit

    The personal life of the author should not influence a decision to appreciate the film or book. I have read the novel and to my knowledge there is no anti-homosexual themes in the novel. Now if there were anti-homosexual themes in the novel I would see the boycott justified, but as it stands this boycott is needlessly hurting the spirit of a great work because the author has a different ideology. I hope this boycott doesn't set a precedent for groups to forward their agenda by ruining the reputation of other great literary works. Criticize the author, not the piece of literature that is neutral on the subject!

    • Jacob Henner

      It's not a question of “appreciation”. No one is saying that anyone should dislike the book or movie, it's a question of whether to give money to the author.
      Would you see a movie produced by Mel Gibson and Chris Brown even if it was great? Or would you wait until it was on cable or an airplane or a .torrent?

      • Locke64

        It was a question of whether to give money to the author. What's the question now?

        • Jacob Henner

          You seriously believe OSC stands to gain nothing if this movie does well? That's absurd, what about potential sequels? What about book sales? What about merchandising? What about higher-dollar contracts for future books? Also, this report is just from unsourced people in the biz (“multiple sources from both inside and outside the companies “) don't you think some of them might have reason to lie? The way absolutely everybody involved has sprinted away from OSC in the press?

    • Joe

      I'm buying the book again right now.

  • medcannabis1

    This
    man is a supporter of hate and bigotry and I will not support this
    movie in any fashion..and I will share this information with
    others..Shame upon Harrison Ford for staring in this movie… Hey maybe
    his next role could be to narrate Mien Kampf !

  • Guest

    The boycotters are such hypocrites. And if they are gonna boycott the movie, let it be because they actually have some knowledge about the subject, not because they behave like a pack of sheep.

    • MiketheHuman

      Agreed.. to an extent. I think boycotting works in some areas, and not in others. But yea, start talking anything (boycott, picketing, protesting) and some will jump right into the boat, without thought of weather is't the right way to make a point or not.

  • blueXenologer

    I think I will still not buy a ticket. I want Card to be a complete pariah. I don't want anybody to want anything to do with him. He gave me something valuable and wonderful when I read Ender's Game and Ender's Shadow but he's taken so much from so many and will use every ounce of influence, money, and credibility he's got to take even more. He's got enough people to help him do that; he doesn't need my assistance.

  • Locke64

    And here I thought they understood that conditioning the man by attacking his unrelated artistic endeavors was wrong, and that the only (arguably) legitimate reason for the boycott was to avoid funding his actions. But I guess a “symbolic rejection” is suddenly okay now. There go all their previous arguments defending the boycott.

  • W. Nichols

    When informed that Card would not benefit financially from “Ender’s Game” box office, Jarrett said it was “regrettable the way the film’s publicity has driven up book sales,”……..Can you say “Backfire”? LOL

  • W. Nichols

    “When informed that Card would not benefit financially from “Ender’s Game” box office, Jarrett said it was “regrettable the way the film’s publicity has driven up book sales”…..”
    And now, by bringing up a controversy that isn't even touched on in the story, These guys have proven to be very effective publicists for the guy they're boycotting…..Brilliant!

  • Joe

    I don't get it. If your opinion of homosexuality is positive, you're allowed to tell everyone. But if your OPINION is negative, you are hateful and need to be boycotted. The double standards sicken me. Either people are allowed to have their own opinions or not. Not “You can have your opinion as long as it matches mine.” Orson Scott Card's writing is good no matter what his personal views.

    • Jacob Henner

      Just because people are boycotting him, doesn't mean even a single person has suggested that OSC doesn't have the right to say or do what he does. It sounds like you want a version of freedom of speech where not only are you allowed to say whatever you want, nobody else is allowed to criticize you for it. That's a ridiculous desire. If your “OPINION” of homosexuality is negative, you are absolutely allowed to say so, and I have never heard anyone try to deny that. But others also have the right to speak out against you, and yes, even organize a boycott if they so choose. Freedom. America.

      • Jacob Henner

        Now do you “get it”?

  • Jay

    I'm not particularly interested in what sort of harm might be done to Card through a boycott. However, I'm certainly not interested in spending my money on anything created by someone who actively and vehemently attempts to keep me, as a tax paying citizen, from having the same rights he does. There are all kinds of ways I can spend my entertainment money. I'll also say it's disturbing to think that anyone would consider this a matter of one free speech opinion being the equal of an opposing one. Any minority denied rights throughout history and struggling against that denial are not simply voicing “opinion”. I'm sorry, but opposing Orson Scott Card's desires to deprive another group from the same rights he enjoys is not some equivalent form of intolerance. It's an absurd argument to make. Card has a right to be a bigot. But opposing a bigot is not the same as being one.

  • CrypticMirror

    Disingenuous. If it fails then his rep, and his book sales will fall, if
    it succeeds then the magic word of “sequel” will buy him a sweet follow
    up contract. Or worse will allow him to potentially benefit from sales
    of his other properties. So while he might or might not make any direct
    money, I don't want my ticket buying cash going to support his lifestyle
    or encourage other morally bankrupt film companies from profiting from
    ignoring hatemongers in the future on the strength of this.

  • bbock

    Even if this is true (and I have my doubts since it's not sourced) I still don't want the movie to be successful or it will launch more movies and he WILL profit from that. And I have no desire to support his hateful homophobe.

  • bbock

    This really strikes me as the studio trying to do emergency damage control to prevent their movie from being impacted. They have no incentive to tell the truth in a story like this. So we have no way of knowing.

  • bbock

    Card is on the board of NOM and organization that is NOT about marriage alone. They are active in pushing anti-gay agendas around the world including in Russia and Uganda.

  • Joe

    I will watch it twice and, buy two copies of the book.

  • TheChaz

    Oh get over it! Who gives a damn about his personal point of view? The man is a BRILLIANT author. I, for one, will continue to buy his books.

  • http://twitter.com/jdrch jdrch

    They could also buy The Forever War, or advocate (SWIDT?) for it to be made into a movie. In that novel, the Earth's population turns to homosexuality to combat overpopulation.

  • Truaaaa

    This is NOT because of the faggots that “boycotted it”, kinda like how gays boy cotted Chick Fil Ay, and they got there best business in six years by people showing gays don't mean jack. Not too mention this isn't even official, how stupid, Gays are the laughing stock of the world, get over it.

  • Jared

    Orson Scott Card is one of my favorite SF writers and I'll say he's one of my personal influence's in my own writing with dare I say… Pride. I could care less what his politics are I'm going to see Enders Game. I'll buy the book again I want a newer addition anyway.

  • Fletch

    I'll be buying a copy of the book then.

  • DouginTexas

    So, Card doesn't have the right to express his opinion?
    Sounds to me like a lot of fools should exercise their ‘right to free speech’ by shutting their mouths.
    Want to disagree with him? Fine.
    But you cross the line when you say he shouldn't be heard – because you disagree with him.

    • David_in_Houston

      Who the hell is stopping him from expressing his opinion. No one is obligated to go see a movie based on his book. In fact, no one was obligated to make a movie in the first place. No one is preventing anyone from buying his books or going to see this movie. But the public has a right to know what kind of person Mr. Card is, and whether or not they want to financially support an extreme anti-gay hate monger. That also falls under the category of freedom of speech.

  • Jared

    I just bought all four of the first set of his books not because I support what he believes but because I like the books. Even if he was a strong support of LGBT and I disagreed with him, I would still buy his books because I like the books. What he does with the money he makes is a reflection of his character, not mine. If someone else wrote the same book who donated all their money to charity then I would gladly support them instead but unfortunately that is not a possibility in this situation.

    • David_in_Houston

      …and if he were a member of the KKK or a Nazi skin head, and said that blacks were inferior to whites and that Jews should be exterminated, would you still financially support him? One has to wonder why you feel it's socially okay to tolerate and support an anti-gay hate monger — regardless of how awesome his books are?

      • Jared

        Sigh. That's good let's use some emotionally charged language – side my argument with some of history's greatest tragedies. Anyone who buys Card's books supports the Nazi's; I missed that disclaimer. Bit of a slippery slope but effective. You cannot argue beliefs, and I am not fool enough to try. Even though I do not agree with what Card believes, by purchasing and enjoying his novels, I have lost.

        • JRSCline

          These people truly believe that people who disagree with them are Nazis. Honest dialogue on such terms is impossible. If you are not with them, you are against them – and must be destroyed (or at least cowed into silence) by any means necessary.

  • synnerman

    Card is listed as a producer on the flm. Since when do producers not make anything on a film?

    This article left that tidbit out. Card will still make money on the film.

  • nieciedo

    If no money from ticket sales is going to go to Card, then the point of the boycott pretty much evaporates. I've never read Ender's Game, but from what I've gleaned the book may have issues but homophobia isn't necessarily one of them. If the book has merits enough to make so many people consider it a science fiction classic, then those merits persist even if the author is a bigot. If this report is true, then a boycott of the film is no longer an effective message of rejection of Card's politics. The only point now would be to prevent any film sequels that might give Card a better deal, but that's not as inspiring. Since so many people have invested so much time (and reaped so much publicity for themselves) in the boycott, however, I guess they have no choice but to carry on.

  • synnerman

    Card's own IMDB page lists him as a producer on the movie. He's still making money on this film, despite what the article says.

  • greenmanTN

    This article is VERY cagey about what it says, and it's basically covering up for the fact that as a PRODUCER, yes Orson Scott Card WILL be making money from the ticket sales. Two things are true. OSC sold the rights to Ender's Game years ago and that was that. As a Producer, he was not given creative control. But that is NOT to say that as a Producer, with or without creative input, that he won't be getting a cut of the ticket sales. That is, in fact, A FLAT OUT LIE!!!

    And let's get rid if the oft-told lie that poor OSC is being picked on because “he's against gay marriage.” It goes FAR further than that, with many Op-Ed pieces calling for the imprisonment of gays, overthrow of the Gov't if gay rights are passed, novels with gay men as child molesters whose greatest wish is to rape their own sons, and a position as Board Member of NOM, which has the most prominent part in opposing marriage equality throughout the US. NOM spokesperson have been to Russia to play their part in the anti-gay laws there which have resulted in beatings, arrests, and apparently the suicides of gay youths targeted by far right gangs. This is NOT about OSC's personal opinion, but about the many MANY anti-gay ACTIONS he has made himself.

  • Josh

    Unverified sources claiming to be connected to unspecified roles in the production of Ender's Game reporting exactly what Lionsgate would like us to think? I'm calling BS on this. Why didn't Lionsgate mention this months ago in their press statements? And how could he get a producer's credit without being paid backend points? Producers have a union too. Yeah, I'm not buying this at all. Too convenient and vague. #skipendersgame

  • Jimbean2much

    Who cares i loved the books and enjoyed the movie. To rushed but still cool. Screw the pink Mafia.

  • Will Kohler

    I'd like to see and hear PROOF from Lionsgate instead of speculation

  • TBAnnounced

    I just learned about this threatened boycott. I will now go buy 10 copies of the book and take my family to the movie several times. You vote with your dollars, I will vote with mine.
    There is nothing more intolerant than those groups who are fighting for “tolerance”.

  • sfsilver

    Card's book has topped the Sci-Fi best sellers lists in Publishers Weekly and the New York Times in 2012 and 2013 as a result of the publicity and excitement generated by the film production. While I agree Card will make no direct profit from the film (beyond his initial selling of film rights – which is part of the film's budget) I think Josh Dickey is desperately trying to find a moral justification that allows him to see the film with a clear conscience. Sadly the film and the book sells are intertwined. The more successful the film, the more likely curious first time readers will pony up money that does go directly into Card's pocket. It takes no great leap of imagination to realize that those book profits will make their way to the organizations that Card has passionately been involved with for the last decade.

    • Jim in MN

      Except that no one has officially gone on record stating that Card has no backend to the films profits… All we have is the day before the films release an article by Dickey stating that several unnamed sources have confirmed he he won't. That's problematic because if it were true, the distributor would have come out and said that at the BEGINNING of the controversy which would have done a great deal to nip it in the bud.

  • Up and Over

    It's just entertainment. Does EVERYTHING have to be “political” with you people. Can't you just enjoy a movie or read a book without wanting to “boycott” or twist people into thinking like you do. Disgusting.

  • Jim Freund

    It *does* make sense to not pay to see this movie. Wait for Netflix or HBO or wherever.

    A message needs to be sent to Summit that a sequel to “Ender's Game” (which *will* make more money for OSC) is undesirable. For him to have a movie is one thing — a franchise is another. Nip it in the bud and go look for other franchises. There's a lot of great sf books waiting to be filmed.

    Lensmen, anyone?

  • mibtp

    So Gays have a right to be gay. True. People who don't agree, have no right to disagree? So much for enlightenment. Only goes one way I guess.

    • Pyrgus

      He has every right to disagree. He can hate gay people all he wants, but if pro-LGBT people don't want to pay royalties to a guy who hates them, they have the right to not see his movie. I mean, if someone came up to you and said “I hate you. Your'e ugly and feculent and I hope you die, now buy this fucking tee shirt” would you buy it from him? Or would you buy a tee shirt from someone who was kind to you?

    • greenmanTN

      You're right, people don't have to “agree.” But what Orson Scott Card has DONE over the years goes FAR beyond “not agreeing.” It's not like, once upon a time, in an interview he said he doesn't like gay marriage.

      Card has called for the CRIMINALIZATION of homosexuality in Op-Ed pieces. He has called for gays to be imprisoned and the government overthrown if gays are accepted. He wrote a novel, the whole point of which is that gay men are child molesters who make their victims gay and they want to screw their own sons. And last but not least he's on the BOARD of NOM, which routinely lies about gay people in order to defeat not just gay marriage but gay rights in general.

      Saying that Orson Scott Card “disagrees” with gay rights is like saying the Grand Dragon of the KKK is a little uncomfortable around black people!

  • deaconardo

    Who cares what he does with his money. If he was in support of gay marriage you would be all happy. He has a right to do what he wants and I am NOT at all happy with your article condemning him. Stupid is what I would call you writing.

  • bedfordthegreat

    I'll definitely watch this movie, if for no reason than to annoy heterophobes. Card was right in his statements; that is why his haters hate him. They know he's a better person than they are.

  • 6184

    I don't want to be associated with Card in any way.

  • Pyrgus

    I'm going to TLDR the whole comments section: if you don't like homophobes, you can protest anything you perceive as homophobic, because this is America and you have that right. On the other hand, if you don't like the LGBT community, you can protest anything you perceive as pro-LGBT because this is America and you have that right. If someone doesn't like your opinion, whatever it may be, they can criticize you publicly on the internet, because this is America and we have that right. The notion of “hypocrisy” is being slung around a lot, but it's becoming increasingly obvious that nobody actually knows what the word means.

    • Jacob Henner

      Thank you!

  • pamhogarth

    If you want to read the books, use the local library or buy it used from betterworldbooks.com. For every book they sell, they donate one.

  • bcspace

    Ridiculous. Should I have boycotted LOTR because of McKellen since I oppose the homosexual lifestyle choice and state recognition of their marriages?

    • Jacob Henner

      Sure, you absolutely could have done that. It would have been your right, although it wouldn't have made much sense, given that McKellen was already paid his salary before the movie ever came out. Absolutely none of your ticket price would have gone to him. That aside, if you wanted to boycott a movie produced by a gay-friendly producer, because you felt that strongly, then yea, that's your free speech right.

  • bubbagrump

    OSC is not only the book writer he's also a producer. since when do producer's not earn backend and residuals? only before it was invented.

  • Rose Author

    Most of my friends have reported that it was sold out so they had to buy tickets to the next show.

    Those who were fortunate to see it.. acknowledged that the books are better (duh) however they loved the movie and graphics.

    I would say the few who chose to boycott had little effect on turnout.

  • 209670938609387

    Changes nothing: the boycott isn't about the money, but the position. If Elia Kazan gave up his profits, it still didn't change the fact that he sold his industry down the river during McCarthy's HUAC witchhunts that ruined their lives and prosperity. (People under 25: Google it.)

    Principle is closer to the heart than money ever will be.

    • ManoftheRepublic

      Your principle worked really well, it is the number 1 movie for the weekend, thanks for your SUPPORT.

  • mememememe
  • Bob

    Ok, seriously. People need to stop using BS like sexual preferences as reasons to boycott things like books and movies (as far as the author/creator is concerned). Get off your high horse already and accept the subject for what it is: a form of entertainment. Boycotting something because the author is ‘anti-gay’ is literally one of the stupidest reasons imaginable. Im not saying you need to love the author, that's your problem. But just because the man wrote something does NOT mean that you need to boycott that particular object. Its downright childish. When I go see a movie, I don't care if the director/actors worship the devil itself, if it looks entertaining I will go see it. Because its a FICTIONAL piece of work that has NO RELEVANCE to the people involved.

  • MiketheHuman

    From my understanding, OSC's beliefs are the same beliefs shared by A LOT of religious organizations. I live in a country where people want me and my family to go back to slavery, so this country will be “like the good ‘ol days”, or like they use to be” (when I would have to drink out of certain water fountains or go through the back door). (I'm black btw) There are people in congress who don't like non whites, or don't consider them “Real Americans” as I hear people say. If you want to boycott something, I say go ahead if your passionate about it. I will not though in this case. No matter what you do, there will always be someone against someone else, and some of those people are very powerful. I am looking for the entertainment value of the movie. Art is Art in my opinion and I like to separate the art from the stupidity and or ignorance of the artist . But if you want to dig through history, you will find a lot of “artists” are not the best people, nor have the same values as one another. Do you really think that everyone in every song you like or movie you watch, or sports game you attend are not racists, or homophobic, or something else, and doesn't profit from your participation??? He's just out in the open. It awful that he actively campaigns against anyone in this country, but he's not standing by himself.

  • Jacques

    And not one of the militant Leftists cares one whit that one of their prophets and high priests, Al Gore, sold his holy “green” network to one of the biggest oil companies on the planet. Hypocrisy, thy name is Liberal/Progressive.

    • Jacob Henner

      Al Jazeera is a media company, not an oil company.

      • Jacques

        And Al Jazeera is owned by…

        • Jacob Henner

          Partially by the government of Dubai, but so what? That doesn't make it an “Oil company”

          • Jacques

            Play all the corporate ownership shell games you want, just like your pet 1%er Al Gore, anyone with a brain knows where that money came from.

        • Jacob Henner

          PBS and NPR and the Children's Television Workshop are partially funded by the US government. By your logic, then, Sesame Street is a military company

          • Jacques

            Nope, just more Welfare recipients.

  • faeden

    Their is no such thing as same sex marriage. If you want to call it civil union go ahead but marriage is a Judeo-Chiristian institution and has been one man and one woman for millennia. It amazes me how a bunch of brain washed deviants think they can come in and change tradition, history, and cherished instituion. What amazes me even further is how gay inc. of the left wing thinks their ideology and opinion must trump the opinion of the normal majority of this country. Homosexual behavior is deviant and unatural, but if you want to play with fire in that realm its your soul and your eternity.

  • faeden

    If you cohabitate with someone for seven years or more in most states you are considered common law. Meaning that one partner cannot kick the other out with out a judicial proceeding concerning property and such. Unfortunately, most same sex couple relationships do not last more than 5 years(US stats not mine) so why would you want to go thru the pain of a marriage? If you were acknowledged as a married couple you pay higher taxes too! Then there is the cost of divorce!
    Aside from that, there are many in the gay echelons of this movement that have made it clear that the main jab of the gay marriage movement is to bring harm and insult to the religious population. Modus operandi is to pass the marriage act then begin a push to force churches and synogogues to perform same sex ceremonies despite being anathema to the doctrines of their congregation, denomination, or faith. That is their plan. It has already occured in Europe. I believe it was the high courts in Denmark that recently stated that a Catholic Church there had to perform a same sex ceremony…This is why I oppose same sex “marriage”. It is the proverbial camel's nose under the tent!. If you want to call it civil union fine. That wording demonstrably limits the powers. Yes…the wording matters!

  • faeden

    Saw it…may see it again just to spite the turd burglars and rug munchers!

    • usorthem3

      If you hate gay people that much then why aren't you out on the street killing as many as you can?

      • gvanderleun

        Get out there.

        • gvanderleun

          Oh yes, I forgot. Nobody's killin nobody. Quite being such a drama queen.

  • Marcus Morgan

    Blue remembered earth by Alastair Reynolds has a same sex married couple I in, why don't they make movies from Alastair Reynolds books, he's good and I read a lot of sci-fi and never read this Osc.

  • JRSCline

    Honestly, who cares? These well-financed, well-connected gay activists are like Hoover's FBI, looking for enemies everywhere and pursuing them ruthlessly. Smacks of fascism, frankly.

    • ethel

      Clearly I am doing Gay Activism all wrong. Please tell me where I sign up for financing.

      • JRSCline

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LGBT_rights_organizations

        You're being disingenuous of course – but go ahead and name an equal number of organizations dedicated to persecuting gays in the same aggressive manner as these groups persecute literally anyone who stands in the way of their public policy initiatives.

        If OSC were out hanging young gay men from fenceposts, that'd be one thing. But he simply disagrees passionately with the idea of gay official victimhood and the strange privilege that ‘victim’ status brings in our society – and he's entitled to his opinion, an entitlement I defend whether I agree with him or not.

    • usorthem3

      “When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.” Sinclair Lewis

      • gvanderleun

        When fascism comes to america it will be wrapped in a queen's dress and a bundle of leftist blather.

  • KG

    I'm buying the books just to throw it in the face of the all the Liberals who so value “Freedom” so long as it conforms to their world view. Everyone is entitled to voice their opinion and I find it more than a bit ironic that those most often trying to limit free speech are those who claim to cherish it.

  • John Stevens

    I fully support gay rights as well as gay marriage and absolute equality. However, if I boycotted every movie out of Hollywood produced, directed, or starred in by someone who holds views that are abhorent to me, I would never see another movie for the rest of my life. Get over it. Orson Scott Card has the right to his views whether you like them or not.

    • Brian

      You can't support gay rights while also supporting the success of a person who doesn't just hold anti-gay beliefs, but is active in supporting groups who oppose equal rights. It's one thing to let a person have their bigoted belief system. But when that person funnels large portions of their significant wealth into depriving human beings of their rights, that's a much different story.

      • John Stevens

        You cannot fault a person for strongly holding to consistent moral and religious point of view. Card opposes Gay marriage on a religious and moral basis. He is by no means alone, considering that the proposition in California passed by a majority vote of all Californian citizens and was only stopped by the courts.

        Should every pro-life citizen then boycott every actor, director, producer, or writer who advocates a pro-choice position. In their mind, abortion is murder and contrary to what they honestly believe to be God's law.

        I am not advocating for Card's position regarding Gay marriage. I am advocating for a civil society in which diverse peoples with differing, deeply held views, can coexist peacefully while agreeing to disagree. The LGBT has won the war in case you did not notice. There may still be a few skirmishes to fight, but the war on LGBT equal rights is essentially over. It is not in the best interests of the LGBT community to perpetuate a war that they have won.

        • Brian

          “You can not fault a person for strongly holding to consistent moral and religious point of view.”– Sure you can. And often moral and religious points of view are contrary to each other. As in this case.

      • gvanderleun

        Brian, crawl back to your swamp. You have no comprehension of liberty. Up in the sling with you.

        • Brian

          I have no comprehension of liberty because I oppose bigotry and the reduction of human rights? That makes absolutely no sense and all. And then you're going to spew nonsensical insults at me as a result? Sounds like you're the one who needs to crawl back somewhere.

  • Logical

    Seems you are 180 degrees wrong.

  • Joel

    Oh, give me a break! So Card believes marriage should only be between a man and a women and he's stated his belief. Big deal.

    • usorthem3

      He actually advocated for a government overthrow if same sex marriage became legal. Also he served on the board of NOM who advocate hanging gay people. http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/07/26/24704
      He has also stated that being gay should be against the law, you know because of some “god”.

  • JamesTroia

    Well of course they are going to say he will make no money from the movie and that he had no creative input in the movie (which would result in being paid).

    • ManoftheRepublic

      No creative input at all, he only WROTE the book the movie is based on….

  • http://exurbanleague.com ExJon

    If I boycotted everyone with a different opinion, I'd never leave the house. Grow up, America.

  • ManoftheRepublic

    I am so glad you people made all of this fuss, you helped Ender's Game to go to Number 1 in the Box Office which should boost book sales enormously.. I am sure that Orson Scott Card will LAUGH all the way to the bank…

  • ManoftheRepublic

    And criminals will do that,,,

  • devilkat

    Learn to separate the artist from the art and quit being so winey and thin skinned. I don't agree with his views but I'll continue to read his books and watch any adaptations of his works.

  • gvanderleun

    You're aptly named, Dickey. Back to your true calling and true talent, Polk Street autofellationist and used tissue recepticle.

  • Tom Wolff

    What a pathetic piece of vindictive vitriol. I think I'll go to the bookstore tomorrow and order every book in the series. Card is an excellent writer, why can't you perverts overlook what he says about you? I'll also buy an Elton John CD. Just because he's a homosexual, I won't boycott him. The personal beliefs of any brilliantly creative person shouldn't preclude your purchasing their material. Petty fools.

  • DAn

    “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it…”
    George Orwell

  • Joseph

    I couldn't care less what Orson Scott Card thinks of the homosexual community. He has a right to his views and his views are ultimately harmless, whether I agree with them or not, which I personally do not (my right; also harmless).

    What I do care about is the fact that a brilliant story, in my opinion and the opinion of many others, come to life is being tainted by self-righteous hypocrites who fail to see that Card's personal beliefs have NOTHING to do with Ender's Game.

    After going to see Ender's Game, twice (also my right), and finding it to be a pretty awesome adaptation, I was excited about the possibility of the series, or at least the meat of it, coming to life. Now, I'm not so sure that this will happen given all the petty controversy.

    What a world…

  • Phil

    Can all the hypocritical, intolerant bigots here who are railing against Orson Scott Card please leave the names of the business and companies they work for so they can be boycotted please?

  • BradleyHart

    Don't boycott the novel, the novel is well worth reading for many reasons. Boycott brand new copies of the novel. It and the Ender's Shadow series (Beans story) are powerful books that are actually the antithesis of everything Orson claims to believe in. He is a fine writer who has written many fine stories and no matter what a douche he has become or at least become public with other the years, stories like Ender's Game and the first book of Empire are worth reading. That said go pick up copies from your used book store for a buck or Amazon for a penny plus shipping. Orson won't make any money, you get a good read, and you keep another dead tree edition out of a landfill for a little bit longer.

  • puzzzled

    I do not understand why this author has been zeroed in on as someone to boycott his books and films. I mean why just him? Many other fantasy authors believe that Marriage can only be between a man and a woman . but never once (even card's books) has their personal views on this issue been included in their works of fiction. Just to name a few: Tolkien, Lewis, , P.Anthony … .

    I think the problem may be in the misunderstanding of the language used in these cases. holy matrimony( Marriage) is a sacrament in the Christian faith. and under current belief structure cannot be between persons of the of the same sex.

    Now civil unions on the other hand are not sacraments and thus are not part of any belief structure by the church.

    The issue here is the nuances of American language. In America “marriage” is viewed as both the civil and spiritual union and other parts of the world have started to follow this belief.

    Prior to the 1920's though the language made it quite clear of the difference.

    So I guess one could make the argument that people need to get with the times and speak like the majority of the population does with these new definitions. but looking at this from a moral /ethical view: who decides what the new definition is and if this new definition now means the opposite of what the original word meant , does that make it right? So if authors like Tolkien who had these beliefs in a time when the original meaning of “marriage” was still being used., were they Bigots or hatemongers?

    If new words were created as ideas changed and society grew, perhaps society would be better off. Otherwise we are stuck in this situation where the older generation is still using the original meaning whilst this younger generation has its own.

    *********I can remember back in 1st grade when the class bully asked if I was gay. Growing up in a Christian family I was never exposed to that word so I went home and looked it up in my parents old college dictionary. there was only 1 definition : gay = happy.
    so the next day when the bully asked me if I was gay , I gave him my answer.
    “of course I am, aren't you???” needless to say this did not end well for me …
    lol*********

  • Bryan Derp

    If you can separate marriage from the institution that condemns you,
    surely you can separate art of the from the author that condemns you.
    Marriage is not a right, it is a spiritual union in a religious
    institution. There are rights that do come with marriage and those are
    things you should all be fighting for if you wish for equality. I find
    it funny you will boycott films and chicken joints because their owners
    are homophobic, yet you all want to perform a ritual created by the most
    homophobic institution of all……

  • MrMidstream

    I bought the ebook because I wanted to support Card. I'm sick and tired of phagots and dyykes whining like 5 year-olds to get their way.

  • kfBob

    Like many other Christians, I am going to see the film because of Card's principled decision not to support gay marriage. I support businesses that align with my beliefs, and avoid artists, musicians that don't.

  • Moonie

    Even though I agree that ‘gays’ should be said to still exist, you guys are kinda heartless. Both sides are horrible, because if someone wants to vote no gays, whatever, couldn't they just move to another country? But if someone wants to protest, well, whatever. Why can't we just state our opinions and agree that we should keepor noses out of other's ideas. Also, even with all this funding for no gays and stuff, there is plenty of more horrible things right now. What about the people with cancer? Stop arguing and start doing something real. Because if you really support a side, you will be doing something. Not just on the computer or whatever writing a note because you agree or disagree.

    Why can't America get along? We got all this commotion going on, while some others are dealing with one thing… and actually getting somewhere. We are not free. We are not stable. Our government sucks. But we got to deal with it, right? Please… Please. Do something with your life. Save people who need it, and if you are so mad about this no gays, go do something. Maybe Amercia will somehow get a little better.

  • John Thomas Hartley

    Well now Im going to buy the book.

  • stripes

    So don't buy the book or the movie. If someone doesn't like your lifestyle then just move on. Why does your choice have to be the morally acceptable one?

  • Bruce Gregory

    I bought five books and gave them as gifts. Never would have done it without your boycott suggestion. Reminds me of the Chick-fil-A campaign and I responded in a similar fashion. The LGBT people can live life as they see fit in my opinion, but others that disagree with your lifestyle are entitled to their views. If you expect people to smile and embrace you as you point a gun at their head, don't be surprised when they shoot back some day. Relax, figuratively speaking.

  • Acacio Moore

    I am a gay man and I find this boycott to be COMPLETE rubbish! Whoever organized this ramshackle mess failed to do their research and should never be allowed to organize another one ever again in life! While they wasted their time boycotting this movie which Orson Scott Card made his money from years ago (so box office numbers would make him little to no money now) they failed to focus the boycott on the one thing he has made out like a bandit on (recently due to the movie), the book. If they really wanted to hurt the author they should have boycotted the book instead and made a stance outside of booksellers across the nation. That would have been more powerful, more visible and more damaging to the actual target. Or why not boycott the movie in pre-production and stop it from being made in the first place. Boycott the production or the book and you hurt Orson Scott Card. But in the end, the people who were more affected by this boycott were the creative team and actors who poured endless amounts of time and energy into making Ender's Game, the people who believed in the project enough to fund it, and the fans of the story itself many of whom I am sure know nothing of the author's views. This boycott might have also nixed any chance of those who enjoyed the movie like myself of seeing a sequel. But I am glad the movie made its budget back and then some (definition of a successful movie in today's market). It is rare to see an action movie in today's world that takes the time to develop characters and poses questions of consequences and morality.

    And I wonder did the organizers of the boycott stop to think that they were attacking a movie that encourages people to try and understand those different than them. That is what all this hubbub is about right? We want to be accepted yet we turn people away from a movie that is trying to do just that. Sometimes you have to know when to pick your battles and know who your enemy is before you rush into war. To me the boycott organizers and Orson Scott Card aren't much different. Both seem like petty bullies bent on destroying something regardless of the collateral damage. Neither seem to see the big picture. An even bigger gesture would have been for the LGBT community to reach out to Card and support the message of Ender's Game despite Orson Scott Card's personal views. That would have been news and it would have opened a dialogue on how the same man could write such a story yet hold such opposing views. He would have been publicly shamed and his next moves against or community would be greatly hampered. It might have even actually taken a step toward changing the man and his stance. I think that is the kind of move Jesus would have made. You can't change the past but you can shape the future. More than likely Orson Scott Card probably hates gay people more now than ever. So the same thing just keeps going on.

  • Steve Ayres

    I went to see it and found it a very unsatisfying movie. I seemed there was a tedious road to the climax, which was nothing much to speak about. Very forgettable and a waste of money. With a budget of $110 million, a domestic gross of $61m and worldwide of $112m I think unless it sells on ‘home video’ in vast quantities there's not going to be a huge fan base demanding a sequel and no financial incentive to make one. It failed at the box office.