Tucker Carlson met his match Friday night when Teen Vogue reporter Lauren Duca called him out repeatedly during an interview on his Fox News show for twisting her words about Ivanka Trump.
The “Tucker Carlson Tonight” host confronted Duca for tweeting about Donald Trump’s daughter in wake of a man lashing out at her on an airplane. After the reporter made it clear she did not condone the passenger shouting, “Your father is ruining the country,” Carlson shot back, “But wait a second, that’s not at all what your tweet suggested.”
“My tweet didn’t talk about the plane at all actually, so what are you referring to?” she asked, and things started to heat up from there. See the tweet in question below.
Ivanka Trump is poised to become the most powerful woman in the world. Don't let her off the hook because she looks like she smells good.
— Lauren Duca (@laurenduca) December 23, 2016
“Then you went on to say,” Carlson said as he quoted another tweet, which Duca sent out days before the Ivanka airplane incident.
“Ivanka HAS IT ALL, & by that I mean, ‘a job, family, & sinister complicity in aiding the most aggressively anti-woman candidate of our time,'” Duca tweeted on Dec. 18.
“Sinister complicity? She’s his daughter,” Carlson argued.
“She did speeches on his behalf where she represented a platform of women’s empowerment, and in terms of having it all, I think she’s incredibly successful, brilliant woman,” Duca said. “The fact that she was able to balance him out on these issues where he has talked about defunding planned parenthood and being against abortion, and these typically liberal women’s issues that she is sort of a cushion for, I think we need to investigate those things a little more critically, a little more rigorously and not be blinded by the fact that she looks like she smells like vanilla.”
Carlson didn’t see the humor in her last remark, and immediately asked, “She looks like she smells like vanilla? Who’s objectifying women here?”
Duca laughed out loud at the assertion, and then explained it was meant in jest to describe Ivanka’s beauty. Carlson then asked for clarification on Duca’s use of the word “sinister,” which she refused to back down from.
“It’s sinister for a daughter to capitalize on the power of feminism and uniting women and empowering women while supporting a candidate who is the most anti-woman candidate this country has seen in decades,” Duca said.
“What does that even mean? Tucker asked. “She’s anti-women because he wants to defund Planned Parenthood?”
“Is that what I said?” she asked. “I think your earpiece might not be working, because that is certainly not what I said.”
When the Fox News host said he’s “trying to understand” Duca’s point of view, she calmly said, “Tucker, you’re not trying to agree with what I’m saying, you’re shouting over me every time I speak. It’s incredibly unprofessional.”
“I’m asking you a simple question,” to which Duca said, “You’re not. You’re actually being a partisan hack who is attacking me ad nauseam and not even allowing me to speak.”
When Carlson continued to suggest Duca approved of the man yelling at Ivanka on the plane, she countered, “I very clearly and calmly said no one deserves to be yelled at on a plane. I don’t want to be yelled at, I don’t want to yell at you on a plane.”
The fireworks really started to fly when Carlson brought up an article she wrote by saying, “You wrote this piece in Teen Vogue for, which I guess you write for.”
“Oh, which you guess I write for? Yes, that’s not fake news, that’s real news. I wrote for Teen Vogue. Oh, you guess, Tucker? You guess? That’s really patronizing,” Duca said. “Your producers asked me if I write for Teen Vogue, and you have my article in front of you. My name is Lauren Duca and I write for Teen Vogue.”
Carlson finally got to his point: questioning a line in Duca’s widely read article Donald Trump Is Gaslighting America, in which she wrote, “There are unprecedented amounts of ugliness to untangle, from deciding whether our President can be an admitted sexual predator to figuring out how to stop him from threatening the sovereignty of an entire religion.”
“What does it mean to question the sovereignty of a religion?” Carlson asked, and Duca explained: “That means an entire agenda a platform based on banning Muslims – which is still available on his website.”
Carlson called her use of the word sovereignty “moronic,” and was at a loss for how banning Muslims threatens the sovereignty of the religion — although he never explained why “sovereignty” was the wrong choice of words.
“Yes, that profiles based on the basis of religion and reduces people to their beliefs and dictates what they can and can not publicly believe,” Duca said.
Carlson’s most backhanded remark came at the end of the interview when she asked, “So did you read the entire article?”
“I did,” he said before running through a few of her articles focused on entertainment. “I also read ‘Liam Payne Is “100% Certain” One Direction Will Reunite,’ ‘Ariana Grande Rocked the Most Epic Thigh-high Boots at Jingle Ball,’ and ‘Blac Chyna and Rob Kardashian Just Went Through the Messiest Breakup of 2016’ — those are your other pieces, but I’m trying to get what you’re writing about Trump – taking a break from thigh-high boots.”
Duca, for her part, appeared astounded by Carlson’s attempt to undermine her knowledge and understanding of politics because of her interest in pop culture, but she kept her cool.
“A woman can love Arianna Grande and her thigh-high boots and still discuss politics. Those things are not mutually exclusive,” she said. “Now that you bring up Teen Vogue, we treat young women like they don’t have a right to a political conversation and like you can’t enjoy Kylie Jenner’s Instagram and worry about the future of this country, and those things are not mutually exclusive, so you know what? I did write about Arianna Grande and I did write about the abusive, bigoted, deceptive President of the United States.”
Carlson got the last word in, or rather, last insult.
“Those pieces were a little smarter than your piece about threatening the sovereignty of a whole religion,” he said. “Alright, I gotta go. You should stick to the thigh-high boots. You’re better at that.”
Fox News cut Duca off before her response came out, but if we read her lips correctly, it may have been, “You’re an insensitive prick.”
Either way, she made her opinion of Carlson known after the interview ended.
.@TuckerCarlson is an enemy of rational discourse. In this fraught moment, his bully tactics are profoundly damaging, and achieve nothing.
— Lauren Duca (@laurenduca) December 24, 2016