‘AHS: Apocalypse’ EP Swears Crossover Stuff Is Coming, Explains Who (or What) Rubber Man Was

“It’s going to happen before you know it, and when it happens it will snap your head around your neck,” Tim Minear tells TheWrap

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(This post contains spoilers for Wednesday’s episode of “American Horror Story: Apocalypse,” “Morning After.”)

What. Just. Happened?

That’s probably your first thought after every episode of “American Horror Story,” but last night’s installment of Season 8 aka “Apocalypse” took that eternal question up to 11.

There was the reappearance of “Murder House” (Season 1) character Rubber Man, a weird last-minute reveal of Mead’s (Kathy Bates) not-so-human-looking insides, and the aggravating fact that we still haven’t gotten the ball rolling on this whole crossover aspect. Where are the “Coven” witches, guys?!? (Read all of our biggest questions here.)

So TheWrap caught up with “AHS: Apocalypse” executive producer and writer Tim Minear on Thursday to ask him what the heck he and co-creators Ryan Murphy and Brad Falchuk are doing to our brains right now.

See our interrogation below. (Apologies in advance, as we didn’t get to Mead.)

TheWrap: OK, first of all, it’s been two episodes now — when is the crossover stuff coming?

Minear: I would say that it’s going to happen before you know it, and when it happens it will snap your head around your neck.

Alright, cause we’re getting impatient and pretty confused right now.


So far we’ve seen Michael Langdon and Rubber Man, but those are our only callbacks to “Murder House,” and no one from “Coven” has appeared — but based on next week’s preview the witches are coming. Are we going to see some more familiar faces soon, in addition to the new “Apocalypse” characters?

Well, you definitely saw a familiar non-face. You saw Rubber Man and I believe you heard a witch, if you didn’t see one… “Gold Dust Woman?”

Ah! Stevie Nicks, yes.

[Note: Nicks portrayed herself on “Coven,” but a version of herself who is actually a real-life witch. The Fleetwood Mac song “Gold Dust Woman” — featuring Nicks’ vocals — was played on a loop in Outpost 3 toward the end of Episode 2. So, yes, Stevie hasn’t been seen yet — but she’s been heard. And Murphy has already confirmed she and the other “Coven” witches will return this season.]

So Rubber Man, was he a vision or a real person?

Well, look, if you go back to “Murder House,” I think you were probably asking the same questions about Rubber Man. Sometimes he seemed ethereal, sometimes he seemed corporeal, and sometimes he was kind of a combination of both. And I think that all of that applies.

On “American Horror Story” it’s often a kind of dream logic — but there is a logic to it — but it’s a dream logic. So, yeah, we’re in an apocalypse, but if that place isn’t haunted, I don’t know what is.

Fair. Based on teasers it looks like next week is the staple of every “AHS” season — the Halloween episode. And in “Murder House” we learned ghosts move freely on Halloween?

They do.

So the “Murder House” ghosts could theoretically come visit Outpost 3, right?

We’ll see.

“American Horror Story: Apocalypse” airs Wednesdays at 10/9c on FX.