“Better Call Saul” fans can thank the lighter side of the “Breaking Bad” writers’ room for its upcoming fourth season, seeing as the spinoff wouldn’t even exist if it weren’t for a joke that wouldn’t die.
During the ATX Television Festival Saturday, Vince Gilligan, the creator behind both series, and star Bob Odenkirk hosted a screening of the “Breaking Bad” episode that introduced viewers to Saul Goodman. Or, as fans of the AMC drama’s prequel series now know him, Jimmy McGill.
Odenkirk told the audience that a spinoff was suggested by a cameraman during the filming of the episode that saw Walter White (Bryan Cranston) meet his “criminal lawyer,” appropriately titled “Better Call Saul.”
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“They were way ahead of us,” Gilligan said, according to Entertainment Weekly, noting that he didn’t start thinking about a spinoff until Season 2 of the Cranston-led series, and even then it was just in jest. “It was a joke, and then we joked about it so often in the writers’ room we thought maybe it’s not a joke,” he said. “By the time ‘Breaking Bad’ wrapped up, we started talking to Sony.”
But even after the conversation began, the joke didn’t die, as at first they thought they had a comedy on their hands.
“We sold it to Sony and AMC without knowing what it was,” Gilligan said. “We thought it might be a half-hour sitcom. We thought about ripping off ‘Dr. Katz.’ Week in and week out famous comics would come in with their legal problems. But we knew nothing about writing straight-up comedy.”
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Good thing Gilligan remembered there is such a thing as a dark comedy. Really, who wants to watch Odenkirk on a multi-cam with a laugh track? Wait.
“Better Call Saul” Season 4 premieres August 6 at 9/8c on AMC.
Summer TV Premiere Dates: Every New and Returning Show (Photos)
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Find out when the most hotly anticipated new shows and your old favorites return this summer. We'll keep updating this gallery as more shows are announced.
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Showtime
"I'm Dying Up Here" (Showtime) Sunday, May 6 at 10 p.m.
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Starz
"Sweetbitter" (Starz) Sunday, May 6 at 8:30 p.m.
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Starz
"Vida" (Starz) Sunday, May 6 at 8 p.m.
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Netflix
"Safe" (Netflix) Thursday, May 10
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Hulu
"All Night" (Hulu) Friday, May 11
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Showtime
"Patrick Melrose" (Showtime) Saturday, May 12 at 9 p.m.
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PBS
"Little Women" (PBS) Sunday, May 13 at 8 p.m.
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Netflix
"13 Reasons Why" (Netflix) Friday, May 18
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Netflix
"Fauda" (Netflix) Thursday, May 24
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Amazon
"Picnic at Hanging Rock" (Amazon) Friday, May 25
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ABC
"The Bachelorette" (ABC) Monday, May 28 at 8 p.m.
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History
"Six" (History) Monday, May 28 at 10 p.m.
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WGN America
"100 Code" (WGN America) Tuesday, May 19 at 10 p.m.
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NBC
"America's Got Talent" (NBC) Tuesday, May 29 at 8 p.m.
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TNT
"Animal Kingdom" (TNT) Tuesday, May 29 at 9 p.m.
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Fox
"Beat Shazam" (Fox) Tuesday, May 29 at 8 p.m.
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Fox
"Love Connection" (Fox) Tuesday, May 29 at 9 p.m.
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OWN
"Queen Sugar" (OWN) Tuesday, May 29 at 10 p.m.
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NBC
"World of Dance" (NBC) Tuesday, May 29 at 10 p.m.
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NBC
"American Ninja Warrior" (NBC) Wednesday, May 30 at 8 p.m.
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Fox
"MasterChef" (Fox) Wednesday, May 30 at 10 p.m.
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NBC
"Reverie" (NBC) Wednesday, May 30 at 10 p.m.
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Netflix
"Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt" (Netflix) Wednesday, May 30
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FX
"Pose" (FX) Sunday, June 3 at 9 p.m.
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HBO
"Succession" (HBO) Sunday, June 3 at 10 p.m.
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AMC
"Dietland" (AMC) Monday, June 4 at 9 p.m.
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Fox
"So You Think You Can Dance" (Fox) Monday, June 4 at 8 p.m.
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CW
"Whose Line Is It Anyway?" (CW) Monday, June 4 at 9 p.m.
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AMC
"Humans" (AMC) Tuesday, June 5 at 10 p.m.
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TV Land
"Teachers" (TV Land) Tuesday, June 5 at 10:30 p.m.
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TV Land
"Younger" (TV Land) Tuesday, June 5 at 10 p.m.
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Audience Network
"Condor" (Audience) Wednesday, June 6 at 10 p.m.
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Paramount Network
"American Woman" (Paramount) Thursday, June 7 at 10 p.m.
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Fox
"The Four" (Fox) Thursday, June 7 at 8 p.m.
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Freeform
"Marvel's Cloak & Dagger" (Freeform) Thursday, June 7 at 8 p.m.
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CMT
"Nashville" (CMT) Thursday, June 7 at 9 p.m.
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Disney
"Big Hero 6: The Series" (Disney) Saturday, June 9 at 9 a.m.
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ABC
"The $100,000 Pyramid" (ABC) Sunday, June 10 at 9 p.m.
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ABC
"Celebrity Family Feud" (ABC) Sunday, June 10 at 8 p.m.
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TNT
"Claws" (TNT) Sunday, June 10 at 9 p.m.
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ABC
"To Tell the Truth" (ABC) Sunday, June 10 at 10 p.m.
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Freeform
"The Bold Type" (Freeform) Tuesday, June 12
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"Gordon Ramsay's 24 Hours to Hell and Back" (Fox) Wednesday, June 13 at 9 p.m.
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Bravo
"Girlfriends' Guide to Divorce" (Bravo) Thursday, June 14 at 10 p.m.
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NBC
"Marlon" (NBC) Thursday, June 14 at 9 p.m.
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CBS All Access
"Strange Angel" (CBS All Access) Thursday, June 14
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Amazon
"Goliath" (Amazon) Friday, June 15
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Showtime
"The Affair" (Showtime) Sunday, June 17 at 9 p.m.
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Epix
"Deep State" (Epix) Sunday, June 17 at 9 p.m.
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NBC
"Shades of Blue" (NBC) Sunday, June 17 at 10 p.m.
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Comedy Central
"Drunk History" (Comedy Central) Tuesday, June 19 at 10 p.m.
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Paramount Network
"Yellowstone" (Paramount) Wednesday, June 20 at 9 p.m.
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Freeform
"Young & Hungry" (Freeform) Wedneday, June 20 at 8 p.m.
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Comedy Central
"Detroiters" (Comedy Central) Thursday, June 21 at 10 p.m.
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ABC
"The Gong Show" (ABC) Thursday, June 21 at 8 p.m.
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USA
"Queen of the South" (USA) Thursday, June 21 at 9 p.m.
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USA
"Shooter" (USA) Thursday, June 21 at 10 p.m.
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Netflix
"Marvel's Luke Cage" (Netflix) Friday, June 22
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AMC
"Preacher" (AMC) Sunday, June 24 at 10 p.m.
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CW
"Penn & Teller: Fool Us" (CW) Monday, June 25 at 8 p.m.
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Netflix
"GLOW" (Netflix) Friday, June 29
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CW
"Masters of Illusion" (CW) Friday, June 29 at 8 p.m.
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Starz
"Power" (Starz) Sunday, July 1 at 9 p.m.
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Netflix
"Sacred Games" (Netflix) Friday, July 6
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Paramount Network
"Heathers" (Paramount) Tuesday, July 10 at 10 p.m.
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"The Outpost" (CW) Tuesday, July 10 at 8 p.m.
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Getty Images
"Burden of Truth" (CW) Wednesday, July 11 at 8 p.m.
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Hulu
"Harlots" (Hulu) Wednesday, July 11
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"The HollywoodPuppet Show" (Fuse) Tuesday, July 17 at 10:30 p.m.Fuse
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USA
"Suits" (USA) Wednesday, July 18 at 9 p.m.
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FX
"Snowfall" (FX) Thursday, July 19 at 10 p.m.
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NBC
"Trial & Error: Lady, Killer" (NBC) Thursday, July 19 at 9 p.m.
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Syfy
"Wynonna Earp" (Syfy) Friday, July 20 at 9 p.m.
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Syfy
"Killjoys" (Syfy) Friday, July 20 at 10 p.m.
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Cinemax
"Outcast" (Cinemax) Friday, July 20 at 10 p.m.
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Hulu
"Castle Rock" (Hulu) Wednesday, July 25
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Pop TV
"Swedish Dicks" (Pop) Thursday, July 26
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Hulu
"Casual" (Hulu) Tuesday, July 31
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USA
"The Sinner" (USA) Wednesday, August 1
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Audience Network
"Mr. Mercedes" (Audience) Wedneday, August 22 at 10 p.m.
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Netflix
"The Innocents" (Netflix) Friday, August 24
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Amazon
"Jack Ryan" (Amazon) Friday, August 31
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