We're on the verge of the penultimate season of "Game of Thrones," the HBO mega hit that has given us cultural catchphrases like "winter is coming" and "all men must die" and that has run our lives since 2011. However, the network isn't done with the series yet. News broke in May that it was considering four potential spinoffs, which set the theory parts of our brains spinning. We wont' know anything new for a while, but here's what we know.
Four (or five) potential ones are in the works
Originally, HBO announced
that there are four potential spinoffs in the works, with each attempting to “explore different time periods of George R. R. Martin’s vast and rich universe.” However, Martin wrote on his LiveJournal
that over time, while he was meeting with writers (more on this later) a fifth one came into consideration. So now there's five, supposedly.
... But don't expect all of them to make it
Just like the Starks, not every show or good idea can make it to the end. In THR
, HBO president of programming Casey Bloys said that while it would be great if all four ideas are strong (a "high-class problem," he called it) but they'd be lucky to get one.
"This show is very special. I'm not looking to have as many as possible. My sense right now is we would be very lucky if one of the four rises to the level that we have set," he said.
Four (or five) different writers have been brought on
Max Borenstein and Brian Helgelan are both working solo on their own potential follow-ups to the hit fantasy series, while Jane Goldman and Carly Wray will each team up with author George R. R. Martin on two other projects. For the mysterious fifth project -- if it exists -- Martin wrote that it's a separate writer, but he didn't disclose the name. Bloys declined to comment on the matter.
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We won't see anything until after the series finale airs
The current focus is to finish up "Game of Thrones" Season 8. "Our No. 1 goal is the seventh season this summer and getting the eighth season written and aired," Bloys said
. "You're not going to see a situation where the next show in the 'Thrones' universe launches off the back of this one. The show that Dan and David have created will get its proper send off first. We wouldn't want to take away from that in any way."
... And we don't even know when that'll happen
However, Bloys adds that because HBO wants to take its time with its beloved "Thrones'" final season, it's unclear when audiences will see it. We can hope it'll come out in 2018, as every other season has come out annually, but he suggested that maybe it could happen in 2019.
Current showrunners are not working on spinoffs
Showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss have been working on "Game of Thrones" for a long time. After the series finale, they're going to take a well-deserved break.
"They want to enjoy the show as fans and don’t want to worry about the scripts or production issues. We were hoping to have their names on it out of respect for them, but we understand why they don’t want that,” Bloys said
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They're all prequels with no current characters
When the spinoff news broke, Martin did what he typically does and took to his LiveJournal to talk about it. He clarified some things, specifically that they're not "spinoffs" in the traditional sense since they won't include any current series characters.
"None of these new shows will be 'spinning off' from 'Game of Thrones' in the traditional sense," he said
. "We are not talking 'Joey' or 'AfterMASH' or even ['Frasier'] or 'Lou Grant,' where characters from one show continue on to another."
George R.R. Martin is writing for some of them
Depending on who you ask, Martin is either writing for two of the planned series or for all of them. Bloys said that the author is writing for two of them -- the ones with Jane Goldman and Carly Wray -- but Martin said he's consulted on more. So what "writing for" means in regards to the spinoffs is a little unclear. Regardless, Martin is involved.
"Every one of the four has visited me here in Santa Fe, some of them more than once, and we've spent days together discussing their ideas, the history of Westeros and the world beyond," Martin wrote.
No, "Dunk & Egg" and "Robert's Rebellion" won't be subjects
We speculated back when the spinoff news was announced that some good ideas would be the "Dunk & Egg" stories or a retelling of "Robert's Rebellion," which sets the events of "Game of Thrones" in motion. However, Martin disappointed with his blog post
, which said neither would be a subject. The rebellion would be old news by that point and he's not done with "Dunk & Egg." He has even more
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"Winds of Winter" is still happening
Yes, Martin is working on all of these projects, but he's still going to finish "Winds of Winter," the sixth book in the "Song of Ice and Fire" series. We understand he has the right to take as long as he wants, but we're hungry and winter is here already.