Paul Walker Death: Porsche Was Traveling More Than 100 MPH, Coroner Finds

Paul Walker Death: Porsche Was Traveling More Than 100 MPH, Coroner Finds

Alcohol does not appear to have a factor in crash that killed the “Fast & Furious” star and business associate Roger Rodas

The Porsche that “Fast & Furious” star Paul Walker died in was traveling at a speed of more than 100 miles per hour when it crashed in November, the Los Angeles County corner's department has determined.

The report notes that Walker's friend and business partner Roger Rodas — who was driving the Porsche during the fiery crash — tested negative for alcohol and drugs, as did Walker. The deaths have been deemed accidental, caused by an auto colliding with a fixed object.

According to a witness’ statement, Rodas lost control of the vehicle, which partially spun around before hitting a curb and struck a tree, then a light post, on the driver's side. The collisions caused the car to spin again, striking a tree on the passenger's side before bursting into flames.

Also read: Paul Walker's Death: How It All Went Down – A True Speed Demon's Final Day

The coroner found that Rodas died of multiple traumatic injuries, while Walker died of the combined effects of traumatic and thermal injuries. The report states that Walker suffered diffuse charring of the skin and epidural clotting; traumatic injuries included fractures to the left mandible, left clavicle, left humerus, multiple rib fractures and multiple pelvic fractures.

The coroner's toxicology report also indicates that cocaine, marijuana, methamphetamine, MDMA and opiates were not detected in the pair.

Also read: ‘Hours’ Review: Paul Walker Says Adieu With One of His Strongest Performances

Walker, 40, and Rodas, 38, died in a crash in Valencia, Calif.  Walker had been in Valencia for a fundraiser benefiting his charity Reach Out Worldwide.

The seventh installment of the “Fast & Furious” movie franchise, which halted production in light of his death, has been given a new release date of April 10, 2015, according to Universal Pictures. Walker will appear in the film, along with co-star Vin Diesel.

  • Wayne Kelly

    Wasn't the posted speed on that turn around 35 MPH? Overconfidence and lack of ability on the driver's part.

    • Stanley Steamer

      Apparently he was a fully qualified high speed driver BUT they were travelling way too fast. All vehicles have limitations regardless of the skillset.

      • earnie mcphee

        He was an idiot. He wasn't qualified to operate a go-cart. He wasn't a professional, regardless of any BS licenses he may have had.

        • Stanley Steamer

          He owned a high performance race shop and was involved in racing for years therefore he was fully qualified. He does not need to be a Formula One or NASCAR driver to be qualified.

          • Shizzle My Nizzle

            uuuuhh… clearly he wasn't qualified since he got himself killed.

          • Stanley Steamer

            Do you know who Greg Moore was? He was a fully qualified Formula One driver that died on a track. In other words, fully qualified people make mistakes as was the case with Roger.

          • earnie mcphee

            The difference here ” Died on the track”. Greg Moore wasn't threatening innocent lives by foolish selfish activities like these two assholes were. Walker and Roadkill were both unqualified idiots, disaster waiting to happen. The streets are now safer.

          • Stanley Steamer

            Who cares? The only point here is he was fully qualified.

          • Stanley Steamer

            Actually the driver was fully qualified but made a mistake.

          • earnie mcphee

            Yes Steamer , Roadrash was fully qualified. He was a qualified financial advisor. The problem was his inability to operate high performance sports cars, not to mention a complete lack of common sense.

          • Stanley Steamer

            He owned a high performance automotive business and was involved in racing. You rode the short bus to school right?

          • earnie mcphee

            Steamer … I drove an old Ford F250 to school. I always kept it below 100 mph, even in the school zones. But if you are referring to my limited mental capacity, the fact that I keep answering your posts doesn't bode well for me does it? You're just too damn much fun, though, I can't help it.

          • Guest

            So you don't think racers die .. how smart does that sound… People die every day driving even in race driving… Accidents do happen its not like you can tell the future how you die..

          • speedo

            doing 100mph in a 35 residential area sounds pretty dam stupid to me,they had the money they could've did that at the track if they wanted to,if they had killed innocent people a lot of you would be posting with a different attitude.A lot of people look up to actors as heroes that can't do anything wrong and if thats the case then you are pretty pathetic

          • Guest

            nope i don't think that's the case i think your problem is you don't think people die. You judge him and yet again he was not driving…
            earnie mcphee

          • Henry Medina

            So if he was not driving how is this his fault if your in the passenger seat. explain that to me mr man

          • Henry Medina

            Well lot of people die its called life tell me can you predict when or how people die… How is that pathetic when its the truth …

          • Henry Medina

            Hey if you die i don't know how you die its not up to me so i wont be laughing at you when you do or calling you stupid or you die.. life can be tough some times people do wrong things. heck i done stupid things and i almost died myself. I look at the road he was not in a residential area it was a high way….

          • Henry Medina

            Call me pathetic all you want don't act like you can predict stuff when you don't know what happened in the car.

          • Kris Noel

            race car drivers die on tracks, therefore youre a douchetroll

          • Henry Medina

            yep exactly my point people die… Not all racers train on tracks.. People race out side of tracks and things happen.. So in other words you cant predict anything.

          • Henry Medina

            Why don't you leave this poor family alone … Serious they just lost some one.

          • RIPpw

            uuuuhh….clearly your an idiot

          • Tuenesha Nicole Cartwright

            But you don't know the difference between you're and your… So whom is the idiot exactly?

          • KJ

            *who

          • Tuenesha Nicole Cartwright

            Ha fine I forgot my preposition. Whom are you referring to as an idiot? Is that better KJ?

          • RIPpw

            im sorry im not a loser checking everyones spelling

          • Tuenesha Nicole Cartwright

            Oh no, you're just a douche that hurls insults at people because they don't agree with you. That's much better.

          • RIPpw

            umm… actually im a girl and I wasn't even commenting on your post in the first place. Why don't you mind your own business next time.

          • earnie mcphee

            RIPturd
            You should be thankful someone is trying to help you out. I have a hard time trying to figure out exactly what the hell it is you are trying to say sometimes. You argument is mute if nobody can figure out where you're coming from.
            Know what I mean?

          • earnie mcphee

            RIPturd … did you mean your, you're … or yer ??

          • RIPpw

            why don't you go f*** yourself. earnie mcahole

          • Josh S

            Earnhardt Sr. got himself killed and he was one of the best of all time, think before you speak

          • earnie mcphee

            Earnhardt died on a track, not acting like a douche on a public street in a populated area. Taking chances while participating in a sport with other pro's is a whole different animal.

          • Ryan Fitzpatrick

            Arm hardy wouldn't have died if he CHOSE to wear the proper safety gear , his ignorance and stubbornness skilled him too

          • Ryan Fitzpatrick

            Earnhardt not arm hardy stupid auto correct

          • BuckTard

            Tell that to Dale Earnhardt tool.

          • Stanley Steamer

            Go smoke some more weed retard.

          • earnie mcphee

            I'm out. You got some?

          • Stanley Steamer

            Go smoke some more weed retard.

          • earnie mcphee

            His actions reflect his professionalism. If he was so experienced and “qualified’ why was he and his idiot friend acting like fools on a public street in a populated area. Calling Walker and Rodas professionals is a slap in the face to the true professionals in the sport. The ones who choose NOT to risk the lives of innocent people for their own selfish enjoyment. In the words of Forrest Gump, ” Stupid is as stupid does.”

          • Stanley Steamer

            It doesn't discount that fact that he was a qualified racer. They were racing in a commercial area not a cul de sac.

          • Harlow Rioux

            Unless one is on a course there is always the chance of a innocent becoming a fatality in these situations. Whether it's a highly populated area or a sparsely populated place.

          • Stanley Steamer

            No one has ever been killed in the stands at an auto race? No one has ever been killed in the pit crew? I am not condoning what they did but your statement is rubbish.

          • earnie mcphee

            Steamer … It's extremely rare. The big difference here is we CHOOSE to be in the stands or beside the track or road of a closed marked race track. We know the risks and make the CHOICE. When people go to a public industrial park and drive on the public streets ( Hercules Street is a very public street ) they do not expect jack-asses to be rodding around in 650 HP car at 100 MPH.
            Where's my pooper scooper at ?!

          • Stanley Steamer

            I am smelling a little NASCAR on you pal. It goes along well with your pork, beer and cigarettes.

          • earnie mcphee

            Nope, I don't drink or smoke. NASCAR is ok I guess, but I'm not a big fan. SCORE is more my thing. I do have a weakness for bacon though, you got me there. By the way, your homo hero is still a dickhead that likes to endanger the public, before we get distracted.

          • Stanley Steamer

            I never said he was my hero nor do I condone what the driver did. People like yourself make me laugh. Now you are claiming he was a homo? You are a real piece of work.

          • Harlow Rioux

            No, it is a logical statement. Because once again, the pit crew , those in the stands and everyone else on a race track chooses to be there-thus they are aware of the possible risks involved, which is wholly different from being hit by someone driving 100 plus in a public place. End of story. I'm not going to comment further since your aim is to be a contrarian rather than being rational. Argument for arguments sake is not something I'm interested in.

          • Stanley Steamer

            I agree with your sentiments but you could get hit by a car on a crosswalk too. When your time is up, it is up thee end.

          • earnie mcphee

            Fully qualified? He had all this experience and still acted like a fool? I'd say he is a fully qualified corpse now, at the ripe old age of 40 . To call either one of these guys a “professional” is a huge insult to the real professionals in the sport who act accordingly. 100 plus mph in a populated public place is a rookie move if there ever was one. In the immortal words of the great philosopher Forrest Gump, ” Stupid is as stupid does.”

          • Stanley Steamer

            They were racing on a commercial street not residential.

          • earnie mcphee

            They were on a public street in a populated area doing 100 + MPH. They were actions were foolish and dangerous, not only to themselves, but to everyone in the area. This wasn't the first time, but it certainly was the last. Who knows? Maybe some one will learn something from all this and some lives will be saved. What do you think, Steamer? Are you going to race your 220 mph hotrod around in public anymore?

          • Stanley Steamer

            How do you know this was an ongoing situation? Are you an LA traffic cop or just a wannabe cop / security guard?

          • earnie mcphee

            Walker bragged about it in a couple interviews. Straight from the corpses mouth.
            Nope, not a cop or a SG. My machines produce WAY more power than Walker's Porsche. Kick ass car though! To bad about Walker's car. There's not a lot of the Carrera GT's left anymore. Too many idiot amateurs smashing them up.
            Steamer … LOL. Great name.

          • Stanley Steamer

            Your vehicle produces more than 612HP? Yeah right and then you woke up from your wet dream.

          • earnie mcphee

            My machines produce about 650 HP/2000 TQ in the front engine. The rear engine produces about 450HP/1600 TQ . They're big and bad and they move mountains. And yes they do give me wet dreams. Not as good as sex, but close.
            I tell you no lies, Steamer.
            Damn, I still can't find my scooper … LOL.

          • Stanley Steamer

            I was talking about motor vehicles not whatever “machines” you operate. You probably have a rusted out '78 Camaro up on cinderblocks at your mobile home.

          • earnie mcphee

            How did you know? By the way it's a '79. LOL. And this has what to do with the two dead morons? My rusty Camaro doesn't run, I assume, it's on cinderblocks after all. So it didn't kill anyone.
            Of course it would be a machine that one of the dead monkeys would be qualified to operate. Is that your point?

          • Stanley Steamer

            You launched off into another area about the “machines” with front and rear engines. You are probably a heavy equipment operator or some other blue collar knuckle dragging job. You have reached the pinnacle of success to the tune of about $30 per hour. This is why you claim to work for people that are more successful than Walker. I suppose a big time property developer could have a higher net worth.

        • RIPpw

          you think you know everything. I have no idea where you got this crappy information from. Unless you got it from Paul Walker himself its just trash.

          • earnie mcphee

            RIPpw . Your comment makes no sense. Read what Steamer said before you comment on my post. I'm beginning to think these Walker fans are dumber that he was. Sheesh!

          • RIPpw

            im starting to think you should go jump in a well. your obviously just jealous that he got somewhere in life and you didn't.

          • earnie mcphee

            RIPturd
            Jealous ? Of a pile of charcoal ? No, I can honestly say, I'm not jealous of these two dumbasses … there are people I admire, but not guys who act like this. They are no better than drunk drivers, maybe even worse. Fame and money doesn't make you a good person. It just makes you rich and famous. Your actions are what make you a good guy or a bad guy.
            People who risk other's lives for their own childish enjoyment fall under the “Bad guy” category.

          • RIPpw

            maybe Paul Walker was yelling at his friend to stop and he didn't. Yeah the driver was being stupid. I get that.

          • earnie mcphee

            RIPpw … I don't have to know much to know you are not the sharpest tool in the shed.

      • Dale Earnhardt

        they are NOT fully qualified high speed driver, they are actors playing drivers, and paid for their ego

        • Stanley Steamer

          You obviously know nothing about the driver because he was a business owner not an actor. Try reading a few things.

          • Kari

            He had to have been acting out ! Who in their right mind would drive that car that fast in a residential district. No matter what his profession. He is not a business owner anymore.

          • Stanley Steamer

            The other poster claimed he was an actor as in movies or TV. Are you trying to be sarcastic by saying he was acting out? They were on a commercial street not residential. You are good at stating the obvious: he is not a business owner anymore. No kidding considering he is dead. The point was, he was not an actor and he was a business owner. Do you understand now? Somehow I doubt it.

          • earnie mcphee

            Hey Steamer. He and Roadrash were on a public street in a highly populated area. Their actions were dangerous to anyone and everyone in the general area. You're trying to excuse this guys actions. There is no excuse. These two should have known better, and now they are done. Well done, as a matter of fact. You're arguments are weak.

          • Stanley Steamer

            Actually it was a commercial district not residential.

          • earnie mcphee

            It was on a public street in a busy industrial park with lots of people in close proximity. And these two retards were doing 100 plus , some say maybe as fast as 130 mph. Just because they were amateurs is no excuse. They did us all a favor. The streets of Santa Clarita are now much safer.

          • Stanley Steamer

            The driver was not an amateur but keep repeating it.

          • earnie mcphee

            He was certainly acting like an amateur, and I call them as I see them. Will moron do instead?

          • Stanley Steamer

            I am smelling a little blue collar on you pal. So are you an amateur drywaller or a professional? Have you ever made any mistakes in your profession? Yes you have but this does not make you an amateur or a moron.

          • earnie mcphee

            I'm smelling a little dog shit on you Steamer. But, I digress. Back to the subject at hand. Everybody makes mistakes. This was more than a mistake. Paul Walker and Roger Rodas were a couple of wanna be drivers operating a car that was way out of their league. This type of dangerous bullshit is all too common. They had no business driving that car on a public street in a busy industrial/commercial park at well over 100 MPH. There are a lot of businesses there who cater to children as well as adults. A lot of people could have been hurt or killed. And yet all this boo-hoo sympathy for a couple of selfish pricks. I feel for the loved ones they left behind, but who's fault is that? This was more than a mistake. This was a deliberate, dangerous act . Walker and Rodas knew what they were doing and choose to do so anyway. A couple real pro's right? Do you worship drunk drivers when they get smeared ? This no different. The fact that these guys claimed to be professionals make it even worse. Are they moron's? Maybe more like selfish assholes.

          • Stanley Steamer

            Actually you are wrong, it was NOT more than a mistake. This guy raced cars all the time. Do you honestly believe that he wanted to kill himself and Walker? Do you honestly believe that he would want to harm anyone IE: the general public? No one is boo hooing these guys, they did something stupid but it was a mistake. You are all about the “would have”, “could have” and “should have” in this scenario. I wonder if you are this robotic about your own life? How about your friends or family? Somehow I seriously doubt it.

          • Savannah

            and your not a moronic idiot either !

          • Stanley Steamer

            Shouldn't you be standing on a corner somewhere you high school drop out? You do not even know the difference between YOUR, YOU'RE and YOU ARE.

        • Lisa

          Hey Dummy, I mean Dale, maybe you should read up on subjects you comment on before you go and make a fool of yourself. Oh wait…you just did.

      • Lynn

        Doesn't matter how “qualified” the driver was. Doing 100mph on a street with a posted 35mph speed limit is insanity and stupidity all rolled into one.

    • Atto

      100% correct. The driver should know the limits of the car and how far it can be pushed. He must have been trying to show out. I am still upset over this senseless wreck and his death. Tragic.

      • DaWholeTruth

        It has NOTHING to do with the car's limits, Porsche's are one of the best performing vehicles, the issue is WHERE he chose to test the vehicle's abilities – a RESIDENTIAL STREET. Had they been on a racetrack they'd be fine. Chalk these senseless deaths to driver hubris.

        • Kari

          Totally agree.

        • a car buff

          Truth…
          Not to argue but the real truth is…if you do research on that particular model of Porsche, you will clearly find out that the model driven in the accident has a major issue with losing control very easy at higher speed. There is alot of documentation noted concerning it's handling abilities at higher ratesof speed, so given such factors and putting the vehicle in an area designated for a maximum speed of 35mph…the real truth is that the Porsche model driven that day had everything to do with speed, and a race track is completely trying to compare Apple's and oranges because that is a totally different discussion concerning suspension setup…just saying

  • granny

    1/ How is it that any “coroner” can establish the speed at which someone was driving from a dead body? 2/ i saw the video of the car before and at the time of the crash…there is no way that car was going over 100 mph.

    • Stanley Steamer

      What are you talking about? What video? Are you an expert at determining the speed of vehicles just by watching a video? I am no expert but after seeing what was left of the car, my opinion was they were travelling at around 150MPH. I have seen pictures of Formula 1 racing wrecks and the damage was pretty close to one of those. Formula 1 typically travels at 200MPH or faster but it's highly unlikely that could be obtained on a city street.

      • spanishrock

        Im a expert and my determing speed under 100

        • Stanley Steamer

          What are your credentials? RUA traffic accident analyzer?

      • earnie mcphee

        So you think these two assholes were doing 150 MPH on a pubic road in crowded industrial park? Well then they deserved what they got.

        • Stanley Steamer

          I would estimate 150mph considering what was left of the Porsche. You have a real woody for dead people eh?

          • earnie mcphee

            Nah … I just have no use for ignorant fools who like to endanger innocent people just for the fun of it. When they do become dead people, I have little sympathy.

          • Stanley Steamer

            Bottom line: you are a hypocrite because everyone, yourself included has done something dangerous in their life. You have done something stupid that put others at risk. My stupidity was travelling at 112MPH in a 45MPH zone on a motorcycle. At that rate of speed, someone else would have been killed or seriously injured had I crashed into them. I can admit to this so what have you done Mr. Perfect?

  • Denise

    when i had my accident they could tell my the damage of the car how fast my ex boyfriend was driving! and especially if there was any skid marks before it crashed! so it is very possible!

  • julie

    so so sad they way he died because he felt more of the pain according to the coroner then his friend Rondas ;(

    • Stanley Steamer

      No one has a clue what either of them felt. They were both killed instantly. One of them from the impact. The other one from impact and fire.

      • earnie mcphee

        How would you know Steamer? Maybe Julie has an inside scoop you are not aware of. What makes you the authority? One thing is fairly certain, these two jerk-offs won't be running about trying to kill innocent people on public streets anymore.

        • Stanley Steamer

          Now I know you are the biggest hack ever. According to you, they were “trying to kill innocent people” seriously? Isn't it time for you to run off to Costco and buy a case of pork?

          • earnie mcphee

            Pork? At Costco? Is it on sale ? I buy in huge quantity , so it better be on sale. Big hacks have big appetites, you know.

          • Stanley Steamer

            That sounds about right along with some beer and smokes.

  • JamesAt17

    The Coroner knows from experience the speed the car was moving at. Its become a science to know and determine the speed of cars for legal purposes. Like Atto I too am upset in my soul every time I see a picture of Paul. We let actors into our lives by watching their movies and when one of them leaves this life even though we did not know them in person we too can feel the loss.

    • Kari

      It is a loss. It is not appropriate for comments calling anyone an idiot. It is rude and disrespectful. We all have different opinions but it is important to show some respect to the deceased even if we do not like what they did.

      • Tuenesha Nicole Cartwright

        im sure they don't care. being dead and all. im also sure their family members aren't scouring yahoo comments right about now. the only sensibility it is insulting is yours and you have the right to turn your browser off at anytime. if you ever die in such a manner I am sure we will call you idiotic too.

  • Tracy

    Am I missing something? This ahole and his friend were speeding. I thank God that they didn't take any innocent people with them. Good riddance to two menaces to society.

    • Nuclear Dave

      I just can't believe how cruel some people can be in in these discussions. I suppose Tracy is holier than the virgin Mary with her rude comment. Look people make mistakes and this accident was just that. I've been involved in 100mph + accidents on motorcycles and cars during my life and also served in our military in Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan. Mr. Walker was one of the most generous and giving people you could have ever met. He was most happy when he was doing something to make someone else's life happier or better and he usually did this anonymously. So, give the guy a break. I don't know anything about his buddy but if Paul called him a friend, he was a decent guy. You'll be missed Paul. Loved your work.
      Nuclear Dave
      Humboldt County, CA

      • HairyKerry

        Oh please, a lot of people do good without risking other people's lives. Speeding though a residential area was a stupid, irresponsible and selfish thing to do. He deserves any criticism he gets. Doing what he loves? Do it on a closed course where you're not putting other people at risk.

        • spanishrock

          Your a idoit

          • Mickey Malcom

            *You're….*idiot. Well, at least you spelled “a” correctly. Nevermind, that's wrong too. *an.

          • Dale Earnhardt

            y tu tambien

          • Dale Earnhardt

            aprende a escribir Ingles antes de criticar…. idiot !

        • Stanley Steamer

          URA hack they were in a commercial area not residential.

          • Shizzle My Nizzle

            oooooohh! so it's totally cool that the were going almost triple the speed limit! it was a fucking commercial area!!

          • Stanley Steamer

            No one said it was cool. Now go smoke some more weed.

          • earnie mcphee

            URA a hack Stanley. URA a big fat steamer, too. Do you know what a steamer is Stanley? It's fresh turd on a cold day. Just like you. A big, fat, fresh, steamy turd.

          • Stanley Steamer

            You clearly have no idea what Google is: try using it retard.

      • Rick Beacham

        None of which excuses them of recklessness in a residential area. Thank you for your service to this great nation of our, helping to keep us all safe. Driving at a high rate of speed in a residential are is the polar opposite of how to keep us all safe. Sad tragedy, but clearly avoidable.

        • Stanley Steamer

          URA hack they were in a commercial area not residential.

          • earnie mcphee

            URA steamer , Stanley. The area was a public street with plenty of people in the area at the time. You are trying to excuse Walker because he is a movie star. If he killed some innocent people in an industrial park, that would be OK? Don't be a star-licker Stanley the steamer. It ain't cool.

          • Stanley Steamer

            I never said it was cool that they were racing. You need to get a life. Now you are commenting on my comments that were not even aimed at you?

          • earnie mcphee

            I'm pointing out the obvious Steamy Turd. It is still a public place with lots of unsuspecting innocent people who could be killed by Walker and his ignorant buddy.

          • Stanley Steamer

            You can't even keep the story correct. Walker was not driving.

      • Harlow Rioux

        Nuclear Dave, First, thank you for serving our country. That is not hollow in any way. My father and husband were and are military with combat experience. I can understand your reasoning in what you are saying and how you are saying it, because both men were extremely generous, kind and used their wealth to constantly raise money for countless charities. But, two grown ups chose to drive over 100 miles per hour in a residential area. I don't know if a life time of good deeds or the selfless choice to serve in the military can be used to absolve people of the consequences of the bad choices they make. The dangerous, selfish choices. Neither one was murdered. They chose their fate. They gambled with their lives and lost. They are solely responsible for their own deaths. Both men knew the risk to their own lives and to all the innocents in that residential area. Including pedestrians. They chose to ignore their legal obligation to obey the law and a moral obligation to not harm others. All the good deeds in the world done by these men do not absolve them for being guilty of selfish, reckless behavior in which they knew the consequences of their decision to speed included possibly killing others, who would have had no choice in the matter. Mr.. Walker's teenaged daughter witnessed her fathers fiery death. What a terrible thing for her to have to live with for the rest of her life. And the persons responsible for that horror are Paul Walker and his friend, Mr. Rodas. Especially tragic because by all accounts Mr. Walker was a great Dad and a wonderful role model in all other aspects of life. That he and Mr. Rodas won't be here anymore to continue to do good, because of their ultimately selfish decision, does rob humanity of two ultimately good people. Very good people often times make very bad decisions-and in this case, it was choosing to ignore the basic, common sense decision to not speed that baffles and stuns. You would expect a couple of thoughtless idiots with no concept of responsibility or empathy towards others to do this, not two inherently decent guys. That's the emotional conflict. I agree that name calling is inappropriate-both were good people who were more than the awful sum total of their fatal decision to act recklessly and selfishly with their own lives and possibly the lives of others. But, imagine if they had killed not only other driver's and passengers, but pedestrians. And imagine if anyone of those innocent fatalities, whose only contribution to their own deaths was to be in the path of two men driving over 100 mph, had been people you loved dearly. Would you still feel they deserve absolution or should not be held responsible for their bad decision by virtue of the fact they had previously done only good? I think this is one of those very complicated moral questions in which there isn't a pat answer. Your post was thought provoking for me and it helped me think of them as real people who were essentially good-but also fallible to the point of not caring about how speeding could kill them and others. And how their own deaths or the death of innocents caused by their choice would affect other innocents. Like the families of Paul Walker, Mr. Rodas and families of anyone they might have killed. For me, it comes down to this: two essentially good human beings, who made the world a better place are dead, not because of other people's actions, but through their own temporary lapse in good judgment. Maybe, if they were just a couple of mugs who never did any good, it might be easy to just damn them, call them morons. But, they weren't mugs. They were good people. Who died for no reason other than their own momentary stupidity. To me, that's what's so hard to reconcile-two responsible people choosing to commit such a pointless, dangerous act.. Wanting to be angry at them and condemn them, but also understanding they were truly good people. And like so many good people before them, they are now robbing this world of their light due to their own poor choices. I again, appreciate your post and totally understand your point of view. Your insight into the idea they were inherently good adds much needed dimension to this sad story. It isn't their celebrity that makes me think about this horrific story. It's the fact that Rodas and Walker represent so many good people who ultimately make selfish, poor choices that are out of character. Out of character choices that end in death for those good people and sometimes the innocents around them. Rational, dependable, generous humans who make these irrational choices knowing full well the gamble they are taking with their lives and the lives of others. These are people who have empathy for other people, who clearly care for their fellow men. So why , why do they wind up behaving so irresponsibly,tuning out their obvious concern and empathy for others? Life isn't so black and white-nor should our praises and condemnations be so black and white. Thank you again for helping me sort out such a complex emotional issue with your insight.

        • Joseph Greg

          WELL SAID…

      • Jamie

        Yes, I agree some people have a serious need to step “down,” among us mere mortals, and Lighten Up. I had never heard of Paul Walker, as those movies do not pique my interest, in the least.
        But it seems he was quite a guy, even buying an engagement ring, anonymously, for a servicemembers’ bride to be. Classy. Not all “rich” people do such things for common folk.

      • spanishrock

        Well put dave

      • SURE HE DID

        OH YES HE WAS HE GAVE TO LITTLE GIRLS, HE STARTED DATING HIS LAST TWO GIRLFRIENDS BEFORE THEY WERE 18.

        • Stanley Steamer

          What are you going off about? Now you are claiming someone was a child molester? Where is this information online?

      • kari

        Very nice comment from Nuclear Dave.

    • HairyKerry

      I'm glad someone sees it the way I do!! I would never wish harm on anyone but these guys were speeding through a residential area!! Why do they deserve sympathy?? What if they had taken out some young mother walking her young children?? They should have known better!!

      • JP

        It wasn't residential man. It was a business district. So much cover up in this accident it's amazing. I checked this out myself so much wrong but we take what they tell us. Ssd.

        • Valenciaresident

          I live 2 miles from where the accident happened. It is not a residential area, but it is a business area (i wouldn't call it industrial) with a children's party venue on the same street less than 500ft from the accident spot. With a family gym facility right where the accident happened. There are a lot of families on that street on saturday afternoon (like the day of the accident). The residential area is less than half a mile from there on the same street. I do think people should not be rude talking trash abouth the guys who died, we should all be respectfull of them and their families, but let's not forget this could have been a much bigger tragedy involving other cars, pedestrians, small children. Yes, young parents with young children walking down the street to a birthday party, just like my daughter and I have done many times before, we walked on the same sidewalk on the exact spot these guys died. These men did commit an irresponsible act that took their lives and put at risk the lives of others.

      • Stanley Steamer

        URA hack they were in a commercial area not residential.

        • speedo

          commercial or residential does it really matter in this case the speed limit was 45 not 100mph

    • jim

      Where did it say anything about a residential area? The area was an industrial park area known for drag racing. Two men are tragically dead, an accident, a mistake. I'm glad tracy, hairykerry, and rick have never made a mistake before! RIP Paul and Roger!

      • Valenciaresident

        I live 2 miles from where the accident happened. It is not a residential area, but it is a business area (i wouldn't call it industrial) with a children's party venue on the same street less than 500ft from the accident spot. With a family gym facility right where the accident happened. There are a lot of families on that street on saturday afternoon (like the day of the accident). I do think people should not be rude talking trash abouth the guys who died, we should all be respectfull of them and their families, but let's not forget this could have been a much bigger tragedy involving other cars, pedestrians, small children. These men did commit an irresponsible act that took their lives and put at risk the lives of others

    • realjuicy2

      Ah, hello!!!!Paul walker was not driving this car….

      • crone57

        Hello!!! Who said he was?

    • spanishrock

      They probably went crazy like that because there was no one around, I know for my self have acted like that and thought that non harm to any body but never thought about the harm on my self, just hate all this judging when where no better.

      • Henry Medina

        Yes true people make mistakes people should not toss stones at the first mistake people make… Some times we learn and live some times we die .. Tough choices but that's what's the choice they made I don't judge people for there choices. Every one here in this room is no saint so Don't judge these people for what they did. When people die I don't judge I just say Sorry for the loss. Its not my place to judge people on what they do in there lives.. I do pray for his family and they get though this.. Paul walker rest in peace .

    • Stanley Steamer

      TRACY: URA hack. Apparently the passenger was a genuinely nice man.

    • Lisa

      Wowi Tracy, it must be difficult in this world being so perfect when everyone around you makes mistakes. I've been in cars going 100 MPH-with alcohol involved no less and luckily still here to talk about it. I could have died, killed my passengers or innocent bystanders. Nothing came of my stupidity. That's why they call it an ACCIDENT. They were race car drivers driving an awesome Porsche and opening it up like lots of people do. These “menaces to society” had just finished a CHARITY race for one of Paul's charities. He did things for many people who didn't have his means. Everyone who knew them keep talking about his compassion for other people. Yeah, you're missing a lot of things-one of them being a heart.

      • earnie mcphee

        Driving a car at over 100 mph on a public road is more than just a mistake. It is absolute selfish stupidity. If this joker wasn't some jack-off movie star, he wouldn't be given a free pass.

    • Kris Noel

      spoken like a true cunt

    • Alan

      I completely agree. When a violent criminal is shot and killed by the police, although I'm against the death penalty, I'm glad because this monster will no longer be able to harm and kill others. When a cigarette smoker dies of lung cancer or one of the many other diseases caused by smoking, I think about the health and lives of others that will be saved because this selfish drug addict can no longer harm or kill others with their secondhand smoke. This situation is no different, and I'm sure that this isn't the first time these idiots drove like maniacs and put other people's lives at risk. I'm glad that these two maniacs have voluntarily removed themselves from society and there is no more danger that they will harm or kill innocent others.

  • Laura Lamar

    No drugs. no alcohol. So you're saying they were just two idiots racing down the street….and crashed. damn…..could have at least said there was some alcohol involved.

    • JP

      So much more to this. So much covered up. When's the last time a pro driver killed himself on the street? Just about never. So many things wrong with this accident it's astounding.

      • PHILLIP ODELL

        Most pro drivers don't need to drive so recklessly on the street. They take their act to the track.

      • crone57

        Yeah, well the first thing wrong with this accident was the FACT that the driver was travelling at over 100 MPH in a 35 mph zone. Is that too simple for you to understand?

    • Dale Earnhardt

      you right , Plain idiots.

      • JR Bondy

        Dale, the real Dale or just a pretend Dale Earnhart? Had ta ask…

        • #3 DE Fan

          There is only one real Dale Earnhardt, he drove the NASCAR #3. He's not around anymore, so this guy is a “wanna-be” or happens to have the same name. BTW: you cannot call a passenger in a car that dies due to someone else driving an idiot, idiot!

          • earnie mcphee

            Yes you can. “Ain't Walkin’ Now” Walker was the owner of the car and RoadAss worked for him. Two peas in a pod … or should I say two idiots in a fireball.

          • earnie mcphee

            Two amateurs pretending they were drivers, risking the welfare of the general public. Ignorant arrogance at it's worst. I can believe all the Star Lickers out crying over this one. Just be glad they didn't kill one of your loved ones. The streets are safer.

      • Henry Medina

        So you think your the best person in the world you don't make mistakes … I think you should look in the mirror..

        • earnie mcphee

          I look in the mirror all the time … I see someone with enough basic respect for public safety and good common sense to NOT rod around in public at 120 mph hitting trees, poles, etc.

          • Henry Medina

            yeah but that don't give you the right to start coming here disrespecting people … You no better then he is .. If he did that he was not driving.. People do mistakes you still not better then him…So if something happens to you in a car you can no way predict death. What i mean is look in the mirror mr perfect.. Who thinks there perfect that's what i meant…

          • Guest

            If you think your perfect because you drive better … Yep i seen alot of people drive i don't judge them its there choice..He did not run into a tree … He was not driving he was in passenger seat so before you toss stones look at your self…

          • Henry Medina

            So that,s what i mean bye look in the mirror not your car mirror. SO before you judge any one you were not there so you don't know what happened. SO name calling and being like you know what happened don't give you right to judge the dead your not God. You don't judge you just a human being like every one else. If he died this way that's on him i don't call people idiots for doing stuff they do.. No one in this world is perfect it if was a perfect world we would not be having problems..

          • earnie mcphee

            He can kill himself over and over again for all I care. The whole point is that he was risking a lot of innocent people by acting like an absolute moron. I don't need to be God to recognize a selfish jerk when I see one. People have the right to take risks, they don't have the right to risk others. Pull you head out of Walker's burned out asshole and listen to what people are trying to say . He killed himself engaging in a dangerous activity that kills hundreds, if not thousands, of innocent people ( the road racer maggets usually live, unfortunately) every year. And for this , he is a hero ??? No, he is just another self absorbed Hollywood creepo. This time he got a taste of his own medicine.

          • Henry Medina

            he was not driving near innocent people.. You just self absorbed So you don't care if people die.. Right on so you like people dying is that right…. Wow that shows you don't have heart at all i feel really bad for you

          • Guest

            Oh be careful with your words you might get bitten bye them one day..

          • Guest

            Oh btw lots of people do dangerous things in the road .. racers die every time doing dangerous stuff.. You need to get out that cave you live in and realize he is not the only one who does stuff like this…

          • earnie mcphee

            Henry Medina … I'll try to make this simple because I can tell you are easily confused. Spoiled rich shit head movie stars do not have the right to risk the lives of other people just because they have lots of cash and a bunch of loser groupies who worship them. This is was what happened here. Two jerks decided that nobody else mattered but them. They decided going 100 + mph in a car that neither was qualified to sit in, let alone operate, on a public road in a populated area was cool. They decided that the lives of the other people in the area were not important. As it turns out it is their lives that were taken. I say they did the public in general a favor. Two less assholes shredding the streets at 100 plus MPH endangering the general public. Get it now Henry ??

    • Stanley Steamer

      You just wish you could have a sniff of the money and power that those two “idiots” had. You are not attractive enough so you have to work for a living.

      • earnie mcphee

        Power?? LOL! Power over gay teenage boys maybe. They did have some money, of course they were too dumb to know how to act around performance machinery, so that didn't do them much good. A perfect example of ” Stupid is as stupid does”.

        • Stanley Steamer

          URA hack and probably live in a trailer park. They had some money? You are just jealous of successful people.

          • earnie mcphee

            Stanley Steamer. You might be surprised where I live. And there is more to life than money. If success is burning up in a vehicle I was not qualified to operate and too dumb to know it, then you can have that kind of success. Ironically the greatest thing these two creeps did was to kill themselves before they killed someone else who was innocent. It is too bad about the Porsche, that was a sweet ride, for the right driver. I have heard that the two trees damaged in the crash might make it, but will probably be removed anyway. As far as the two charcoal brothers, I could care less. Other than to say I appreciate that they removed themselves before someone innocent got hurt. To Hell with them and that whole street racer crowd that worships them so much.

          • Stanley Steamer

            Originally you said they had “some money” like they were just middle class people. Now you are saying “there is more to life than money” which further proves you have little to none. No one is “worshipping street racers” here. People like yourself make me laugh is all. You probably could not afford the wheels on the Porsche they were killed in.

          • earnie mcphee

            Is it all about money, Stanley? Really? I'm quite sure both these guys had a lot more money than me. Who gives a shit? It doesn't give them the right to be douche bags. That's my point here , knucklehead . It's not who has the most cash. I'm glad I humor you, although you seem like a rather simple person so I'm sure it doesn't take much. I guess in your world wealthy douche bags can do as they please in public, even at the risk of other people's lives? Do you even have a point to make? I get it, Walker and his fellow moron made a lot of money, and so they are great. I got that . Any other arguments you want to make. I'll stick to one simple point : act like an asshole, die like an asshole. Rich or poor , money can't help you there. In fact, one could argue that his money put him in a car he should not have even had pictures of, let alone own. Lots of people have more money than brains. Money is great Stanley, but there is more to life than stacks of cash.

          • Stanley Steamer

            And you keep repeating the same material about them racing on a street and putting people at risk. No one said they can do as they please including myself. What I do know is Walker was a nice guy and quite generous which is fairly rare in the celebrity world. The driver made a big mistake which cost them both their lives: thee end. But you keep blabbering on about them being rich douchebags and that they were a menace to society. Do you know for a fact that they were doing this sort of thing all the time? No you do not so I would not label them a menace to society. I am willing to wager you have drove drunk before or were speeding or doing other illegal things at one point in your life so this makes you a hypocrite. I am not a simple man but you are.

          • earnie mcphee

            Steamer:
            Run this through your sophisticated mind. Nice, generous people do NOT make a habit of creating a very dangerous environment out of public streets.
            Creating a charity foundation is not a free pass to endanger lives. I doubt much of that money is his. It's nice that he uses hid name to collect money to help folks in need. Not a pass to endanger innocent people.
            I do not drive drunk, and while I may break the speed limit now and then, there is a big difference between 80 mph in a 75 mph zone and doing well over 100 mph on a windy street in a public area. There is a school just off that road these two numbskulls crashed on.
            Yes, they were a menace to society, I would say as bad, if not worse than a drunk driver. Rodas was in no more control of that car than sloppy drunk, and going WAY faster. Neither of those boys were qualified to be in that thing, not even on a race track.
            And yes I probably am a simple man. I have no problem with that.

          • Stanley Steamer

            You have no clue where the funds came from his charity. Even if it was “just his name”, what do you do for people? Have you even donated your time to a cause? Doubt it. No one is saying they should get a free pass. In fact they paid the ultimate price with their lives. What more do you want?

          • earnie mcphee

            Actually I do have a clue where the funds come from.
            I do quite a bit for people who are in need.
            I probably have donated more than you are worth.
            It's too bad they died, but in the long run, I think it was probably for the better. Sooner or later someone innocent was going to get killed.
            What more do I want? I want retarded wannabe street racers to quit killing people on the public streets. If you are a real driver, you keep it on the track.

          • Stanley Steamer

            You have donated more than I am worth? Yeah I am sure you are a regular Mother Teresa with your attitude in this forum. You have no clue what I am worth you blowhard.

          • earnie mcphee

            You do live up to your name, Stanley. You sure are a steamer! LOL! Damn I'm funny. ; )

          • Stanley Steamer

            I see a future in stand up comedy for you my friend. You could become rich and famous. Oh wait a second, you have an issue with rich people, my bad:(

          • earnie mcphee

            I don't have a problem with rich folks, Steamer. I happen to do work for people far more successful than Walker or his chump Rodas. I admire successful people, as long as they went about it legally and ethically.
            I do have an issue with jackasses who think they are above the law , rich or poor. It goes back to what I've said before. It is your actions that make you who you are, not the size of your bank account.
            As far as being a comedian, I'm sure I do as well or better than most comedians. Being famous is not something I have any interest in. That's kind of an ego thing for some folks I suppose, just not my thing.

          • Stanley Steamer

            You work for people who are “far more successful” than someone that starred in quite a few films along with a multi-billion dollar film franchise? Your bullshit meter just exploded.

          • earnie mcphee

            Ok Steamer , whatever you say. Good day.

          • Stanley Steamer

            Yes you posted this just before midnight. I guess you need to go to bed so you can be alert running the bulldozer first thing on Monday morning right?

  • laire

    Who cares…if they were that crazy to be flying @ 100+, well…that's called ‘brain dead’ !!! Thank God for the lives they ‘could’ have taken by their wreckless ‘intoxication’ !!!

  • Harlow Rioux

    They knew full well their reckless behavior might kill other people whether drivers, their passengers or pedestrians. The only ounce of empathy anyone should have is for the families they left behind, including children who are now fatherless because those fathers chose reckles behavior as a more important priority than their children and the lives of innocent people.

    • really

      “They knew full well their reckless behavior”? Did that car have 2 steering wheels and gas pedals? Passenger had no choice. EOS idiot get it right

      • Gary Seven

        Passenger has a choice, he got in the car with a idiot. Birds of a feather flock together and die together, He was hanging with the wrong crowd

        • Kris Noel

          truly an asshole moron comment

          • earnie mcphee

            Gary 7 is right. Stupid is as stupid does. The streets of SoCal are now much safer. Your comment says a lot about your mental capabilities. You don't drive a car do you? I hope not.

          • Kris Noel

            Suck on a dick

          • Gary Seven

            I was replying to REALLy who said quote “Passenger has no choice. EOS idiot get it right.” If you cannot see the lie in that statement about who has a choice and who is the idiot then look in the mirror and you will see the asshole moron in your own eye. You cannot handel the truth can you? The trusth hurts and the lie makes you feel good. Support your statement

        • sde

          Next time your passenger in a car and the drive run a red light I hope they fine you too.

          • Gary Seven

            Are you really thinking about your statement? Run a red light someone will be dead. You missed the whole point. I bet you are a democrat liberal who blames cars and guns for peoples own fault. Understand the eqo, personality and attitude of the culture here. 100 mph in a 35 zone? This is not a oops red light thoughtless situation. fas t furious life leads to death. Their is irony in their moveis and their culture. Why don't you liberals blame the car like you blame guns ..its a tool too

      • Harlow Rioux

        Paul Walker had a choice because he was not a 4 year old , he was a grown-up who agreed to go on this test drive with his friend. He had the responsibility to say” You know this is stupid, let's not drive here I don't want to get killed , I have a kid. I don't want to f up some other persons life by crashing into them. Let's do this on a course instead.” Unless a passenger is a child or comatose there is no reason not to be responsible and speak up. just because people express anger with the decisions made by Mr.Rodas and Mr. Walker does not mean either man is horrible. I simply stated my empathy is focused on their families because they are the ones truly suffering over the irresponsible choices made by Mr. Rodas and Mr. Walker. And those of us judging their choices as irresponsible are probably imagining what it would feel like to have a loved one killed through no fault of their own, by someone else's choice to speed. I don't think you would be defending either passenger or driver of a speeding car if they plowed into people you loved, killing them. You would only feel grief and anger.

    • spanishrock

      Yeah like your so perfect right, we all do stupid things, me my self lucky to be alive , but learn though my crazy life.

    • Druid Lord

      James Dean must have been an idiot, too, according to your opinion yet people still mourned his death. It's very noble of you to make these comments seeing as how you've obviously never made a mistake. These two men made a mistake and paid for that mistake with their lives. Regardless of what you think you could at least do them the courtesy of keeping your ill-formed opinions to yourself.

      • Bob

        There is being an idiot and then there is being an IDIOT. Going 100 MPH in a parking is an IDIOT.

        • Henry Medina

          in all due respect of what he or the other person did.. Show some respect In life we have choices. Don't act like your better then him because your not we all human we all make mistakes.. So don't judge him because he is dead .. Show some respect to him and his family. I don't judge people for there life Choices they make what ever they want .. So you don't judge any one calling people names its not right.

          • earnie mcphee

            We are not judging these two fools. We are simply commenting on the obvious. You feel free to worship and idolize … those of us with brain activity will comment.

          • Henry Medina

            who says i am worshiping i am respecting.. So before you say i don't have a brain your the one who acting like your the best person in the world.. So before you say i am stupid i don't drive because i don't need to i like using public transportation.. I don't see how your inferior to me your just Human being.. To top if off you don't have a heart.. So sad for you…..

          • earnie mcphee

            Don't answer me back if you don't like talking to me Henry.

          • Henry Medina

            Why don't you just shut up not in the mood.. Yes i have problems writing its apart of my disability.. My grandma is in the hospital if you want.. just leave me alone and shut up…

          • earnie mcphee

            Henry , if you can't play with the big girls, don't get on the court. And I don't buy your story. Nice try though.

          • earnie mcphee

            Henry … Quit talking to me. if you think I'm picking on you then quit picking on me. We all have problems Buddy. Bye now. Good luck.

          • Henry Medina

            unless you want my grandma to die to…if you do wow man

          • earnie mcphee

            I love your Grandmother, Henry. She is a lot of fun! Unlike your whiney ass.

          • Henry Medina

            I know how to read and write i type like this because i am disabled and i cant hear i had sizes and problems when i was small my school refused to teach me and i got kicked out.. so you going to tell me i am stupid.. Go ahead i don't care i been called stupid all my life..

          • Henry Medina

            At least i build computers and going to school now and trying to fix my life i don't need some guy like your self telling me what to do…

          • earnie mcphee

            You are pretty good at fishing for sympathy, aren't you Henry? I'm not buying your story, however, at your request, I will speak to you no more. I sure don't want to be picking on some helpless guy.

          • Henry Medina

            Now leave me alone if you got anything else to do then pick on me and call me names… Go do it on your own time..

          • earnie mcphee

            Quit picking on me Henry! I'm gonna tell my Mom!

          • Henry Medina

            So go ahead and think you can predict what appends and go ahead keep calling people idiots when they don't know when they will die..

          • Henry Medina

            you don't even know the whole story were you in the car before you judge and say anything about it.. No you was not there.

          • Henry Medina

            I know he was Good actor i dont warship people i have better respect then you do for the dead besides how they died.. So name one person in history who has not done one dumb thing in life.. You act like every one don't do anything wrong..

          • Guest

            Oh and you still have not name one person who does things wrong shows how much you judge.. So he bashed into a tree that's his life.. No one was killed And you cant predict how people die.. Some times things happens its called life get used to it..

          • earnie mcphee

            Henry Medina … You need to work on your writin’ skills buddy. I have a hard time trying to figure out what it is that you are trying to say. If you have a point to make, it has to be understandable. With that said, here is my point : these two reckless bastards could have easily killed a lot of innocent people. I see it every day. And the real sad part, is that the scumbag street racer bitches almost always walk away. They plow into an innocent bystander or driver, kill some people, and then walk away. Usually to prison for a while, but they live. Well, now the Head road racer scumbag is dead. America is a better place with out him and his shitty movies that promote death. Now, I'm not sure what grade you are in, but you shouldn't worship these Hollywood dirtbags. They like to take advantage of little boys. And start paying attention in school.

          • earnie mcphee

            You need to go back to school and learn some writing skills. You might work on your reading while you're at it.

          • earnie mcphee

            Some one was killed Knucklehead. This time it was the right ones who died, though. Not some innocent bystander.

        • RIPpw

          you sir are the IDIOT

          • earnie mcphee

            RIP, The biggest idiots of all are now dead. “Won't be walkin’ anymore” Walker and his right hand man RoadAss pretended to be drivers, but their ignorance killed them. At least they didn't take out any innocent people.

          • RIPpw

            did you even read what you said before you posted this. you sound like a dumbass. that doesn't even make sens

          • earnie mcphee

            Yep, I read it and I meant it. Driving at triple digit speeds on a public street in a busy industrial park is IGNORANT. Even for amateurs like Walker and Rodas. They were adults and should have known better. Being rich and famous is no excuse. By the was RIPturd, what does “sens” mean? I'm a dumbass so I don't understand, but I'm sure a fart smeller like you can fill me in.

          • RIPpw

            im sorry I made a f****** typo.

      • Tuenesha Nicole Cartwright

        Its called freedom of speech. Isn't that what people are always hollering about? Harlow has the right to say they think what he did was idiotic and got himself and Paul killed. There is nothing ill informed about that. The wheels were fine. No apparent problems with the car. I think a racing enthusiast said above that Porsche makes awesome cars. It wasn't raining, no ice, no unforeseen traffic up ahead. Given those circumstances to spin out of control on a dry and smoothly paved street whether its residential or commercial, is stupid. To smash into a tree and set yourself and tragically your friend on fire because you drove your friends car at speeds over a 100 in what locals have ascertained is a 35 MPH zone is a mistake yes; yet it is more because it was an ill planned stupid mistake. It just was. You don't have to insult people because they are upset about a senseless and completely avoidable death.. So they call him stupid, not because they want to disrespect him, but because he should have known better, should have been more careful. It wasn't a tragic accident it was a willful disrespect of the powerful and deadly laws of physics: V= d/t

      • earnie mcphee

        James Dean was hit by another driver who didn't see him. He was in an isolated area , and he was likely doing close to the speed limit . These two incidents have little in common, other than “actor” and “Porsche”. There are a dozen websites that cover the subject, go check them out.

      • Harlow Rioux

        Actually it wasn't Dean's fault, The other driver , Mr. Turnipseed,did not see Dean's car coming as he pulled out to make a turn. The survivor in Dean's car, his mechanic, said Dean's last words were “He has to see us, right?” Dean wasn't speeding when the crash occurred.

        • earnie mcphee

          That's pretty much the story I heard. Dean's car color blended well with the road surface and Turnipseed was looking into the sun. Have you noticed that in the accident photos, the car was a right side steer, but in other pictures the car has a left side steering wheel. This has always baffled me.

          • Harlow Rioux

            I never noticed that. I'll have to look at the photos again.

        • Harlow Rioux

          I wasn't the one driving over 100 mph. I wasn't a passenger allowing the driver to hit over 100 mph. That would be Mr. Rodas and Mr. Walker who did that. And no matter how much it bothers you it cannot be denied these two men made a reckless decision together which caused their own deaths. They knew that was a possibility. It's no different than playing Russian roulette or chasing another high. My comment has to do with the fact so many people are in denial over the truth: these two men could have killed innocent people. Their decision caused unbearable pain for their families and children. Deaths that happened at their own hands. His daughter saw her father burn up in that crash. If he hadn't chosen to behave recklessly, he would still be there for his daughter. But now, she has no father. Not because he was murdered or died from illness, but because he chose to risk his life over being responsible so that his daughter would have a father. I'm sorry you think pointing this truth out causes you to think I am superior and without fault, because I know full well I've made many mistakes, many. But speeding over 100 mph is not a `mistake.’ It is a conscious decision to risk the possibility of killing oneself and worse, other people who had no say in their fate.

    • RIPpw

      so, basically you are saying that you do not care one bit that their lives are gone. Well I know one thing and that is Paul Walker and his friend ended up in a better place than you will.

      • WALTER

        You must be God. YOU decide where everyone ends up. Hmmmmmmm!!

        • Tuenesha Nicole Cartwright

          apparently. he's handing down final judgments, lol. whooa slow down buddy. apathy doesn't automatically mean hell. lol well I hope it doesn't.

        • RIPpw

          I think you better calm down

      • Harlow Rioux

        I wrote my empathy is with their family and children. I never said they were going to hell. Nor did I judge them as inferior to me. I never wrote they were bad people, But they are dead by their own hand, Not through an unavoidable accident, but dead because of a wholly avoidable one they created by their choice to ignore obvious risk to their lives. So, my empathy is with their families because they are the ones truly suffering in this situation that only happened because two people chose to knowingly risk their lives and the lives of others. This was not a mistake on their part. they knew the risks involved and willingly chose to ignore those risks. None of it needed to happen, it was pointless. And they are dead because they chose to ignore those known risks.

        • RIPpw

          im sorry I just misunderstood your comment. I didn't mean to be rude.Sorry again!

          • Harlow Rioux

            Thanks for being kind enough to apologize. Makes a huge difference and shows people on forums can be civil. Thanks again.

  • Joe

    Posted “speed limits” are set by the conditions of the road under ordinary conditions but if the condition of the road is such traveling at the speed limit and causing an accident does not absolve you of responsibility. This was not the only accident of that type of car so there is a record probably reviewed by engineers that can and probably do write professional studies of what happens under particular circumstances such as excessive speeding. Some may absolve him of being involved in an accident with a car that was not suited at the proposed speed in that area. People have a reasonable expectation that drivers will operate their vehicles in a manner that does not cause injury or death to others in the area. So somehow they scouted out the route with proper look outs along the way to insure safety to others in the area? I seriously doubt that.
    It can seriously be challenged that he realized any suffering at the time of his death despite having internal burns because it is common in an accident that people can be made delusional or unconscious although they continue to breath which would provide a reason for the internal burns. Anyone championing some memorial for him and the driver are asking a lot of others when their own end was cause by their own decision.

  • George

    Driving reckless at that speed on a public road with other motorists, people walking or kids playing could have easily added to the death toll is pretty bad but knowing if you F'up at that speed their is another person that you are responsible for should have been enough to slow his ass down… I couldn't be that careless with someone else's life, I don't care if they were begging me to drive fast & drift curve I couldn't do it.. A Carrera GT mid engine V10 ( motor is in the rear ) spun around & split in half from the rear to the center of the dash.. 120 – 130 mph ( conservative estimate ) easy when he lost it.. But to disintegrate a V10 & rip through a carbon fiber monocoque like it was hot butter..over 150 mph… When a vehicle first loses control speed is gained not lost..

    • Stanley Steamer

      I agree it looked like a Formula One wreck not a normal accident.

  • bellaluna30

    I think it's sad, especially since Paul's daughter was in attendance of the invent.

    • pbletsnotjudge

      This is the one comment that should break everyone's heart regardless of how they feel about the situation. I am not condoning driving at 100 MPH but it was an accident and 2 people died. As well as a daughter who will never have her dad hug her again Come on people, has anyone heard “cast the first stone…” ?????

      • Dawg93030

        That Porsche is one of the most high end and great handling vehicles that anyone can buy, built for speed and cornering on the roadway's of Europe, where speed is over 100 mph almost always. The roads are flat and long where you can see for miles as you zoom along with this vehicle. We all know that when a race driver gets into a car like that the “lets see what she can do ” takes over this car, therefore the beginning of the whoa s#%t ride. It's a shame that Roger didn't think about the water drainage gutter's as he turned that corner at was has been said 100 mph + that literally took any traction off the wheels as it was launched airborne. Imagine what he was thinking as the car became uncontrollable while it was spinning towards the tree and pole, then thru them into it's resting place, wheels still turned into the drift position. Bad judgment? Yes…Avoidable? Yes ..Did they die together doing what they have come to love? Yes……

        • Alie

          Thank you Jim. Smartest comment out of the whole lot.

        • crone57

          Wow, I really have to wonder if their last thoughts were “Whee, what a fund way to die!!!

          • Stanley Steamer

            Fund? Fund from what the insurance policy?

        • Cityda

          That's right ,Porsche sent out a notice for the Carrera GT about the inability to go over seam heights and pot holes.
          “all the disadvantages of racecar,”

      • earnie mcphee

        And, yet, who was responsible ? The car ? The road ?? Maybe if we did cast a few stones, there would be less tragedies like this. This bullshit is all to common and usually it's some innocent bystander that dies. At least Walker and Roadass didn't wipe out any innocents.

    • Lily

      She was not at the event.

      • Harlow Rioux

        Yes, she was at the charity event and heard the crash, saw the gray smoke and went to the scene with others. She saw her father burning to death in the car.

  • turtle_avenger

    That's not an “accident,” that's being on the losing end of a high stakes risk that they both knew very well.

    • Stanley Steamer

      If it was not an accident, then they were both on a suicide mission. IDIOT.

      • earnie mcphee

        They WERE on a suicide mission. It's just that they were too fucking stupid to realize it.

        • Stanley Steamer

          You are too stupid to realize it was an accident not suicide.

          • earnie mcphee

            You are too funny Stanley! What grade are you in?

          • Stanley Steamer

            Yes, you have it all figured out. A successful businessman and a rich and famous actor committed suicide in a car together. It was not an accident, they had nothing to live for and wanted to end their lives. You effing hack.

          • earnie mcphee

            Stanley, you are pretty simple aren't you? Do you know what a steamer is Stanley? Have you ever watched a dog poop on a cold day? That's a steamer. Just like you.

          • Stanley Steamer

            You are so simple, you could not even be bothered to Google it so you assume it refers to a dog defecating. But such is the case when you are a simple CU Next Tuesday like yourself.

          • earnie mcphee

            I am aware of an old car that was called a “Stanley Steamer”, but I'm not a big steam engine guy, I own diesels and gasoline power. Therefore, I'm not going to bother to Google it. I don't care. You, on the other hand, remind me of a hot steamy pile of poop I left on the side of a trail when I was last in the Sierra Nevada's. It was about 10 degrees F outside, and when I looked back, I thought I saw you.
            By the way, you don't have to use secret code to call me a cunt. You can just sat it outright. I've been called worse. You are too much fun, Steamer!
            And you are correct, I am a simple motherfucker. That's one of my finer points. ; )
            (Your turn)

          • earnie mcphee

            Damn, Steamer! Do you realize we've been at this for over 20 hours? Holy Stinking Dog Shit!!

          • Stanley Steamer

            Let me guess, you have an F-350 Powerstroke 4×4 tiny pee pee truck right? I am also guessing a '60s to '70s muscle car too is that about right?

          • earnie mcphee

            Nope, you're way off Steamer.
            You don't mind if I call you “Turd” for short , do you? I feel like I'm getting to know you.

          • earnie mcphee

            It's true Stanley. They were both famous and rich and successful but they couldn't be like you so they decided to end it all. Do you use a lot of drugs, Steamer?

          • Stanley Steamer

            Actually only one of them was famous whereas the other one was just a rich businessman. Stick with the facts you hack.

  • JP

    We know so much is wrong with this. From the beginning so much not covered and covered up. Coroner has no clue the speed of the car and the fact there were no skid marks except where they hit the curb.

    • crone57

      OK, I'll bite. How fast was the car really going?
      What is the big cover up? Who is doing the covering up? Why are they doing it?
      I'm waiting with baited breath.

  • brad

    Glad these two idiots only killed themselves going 100+mph in a 35mph instead of any innocent safe drivers…..

  • 8307c4

    That's what happens to angry children who drive fast.

  • really

    2 people driving reckless? Did that car have 2 steering wheels and gas pedals? Passenger had no choice. EOS

  • PHILLIP ODELL

    Even the best of drivers lose control from time to time. The Porsche they were in is an extremely powerful and quick handling car. Most of us simply can't relate to the difficulty of driving such an animal of a vehicle. I'm probably lucky I can't afford such dangerous toys.

  • Lainey Elaine Wilcox

    In regard to the speed determined by the coroner, there is a coup counter coup in process. The car is traveling at 100 mph, the body is also traveling at 100 mph as are the organs of the body. When the car hits am immovable object every thing in the vehicle also follows the same path. The organs of the body have slammed into the rib cage at 100 miles per hour. The coroner, from experience, condition of organs and physics can determine the probable speed of the car. Hope this helps.

  • the man

    He is dead get over it life goes on , idiots deserve to die period .

  • Elizabeth Downey

    uh…they first put out that they was only doing 40 mph….and any idiot knows that a porche does not blow up at 40 mph and look like the pics that were shone…I knew all the time the way the car looked…split in half either from the explosion or from the impact…the was doing almost 3 times of 40 mph.I hope it was a quick death for them…

    • Stanley Steamer

      WTF is shone?

      • earnie mcphee

        WTF is Stanley Steamer?

        • Stanley Steamer

          It is called Google, try using it no mind.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5OWRRJh-PI&list=FLYJP3MjZQ-BJugrvyegfQ7Q&index=1&feature=plpp_video Alberto Knox

    So, if “thermal injuries” were one of the causes of death that means he was alive when they occurred. He died screaming in the flames. lovely. thanks for sharing.

  • Adriana

    When you drive that fast you are asking for death. When he realized he had died from being in a speeding car he must have thought,”Man, that was stupid.” Yep, sure was.

  • Alpha Dog

    Its a wreak not a accident!!!

  • Larry Thiel

    I'm relieved they only killed each other, and I'm thankful I no longer have to share the road with either one of these idiots.

  • spanishrock

    Why is there so much hate in here, no wander the world is so fucked up.

  • Scoopers804

    Sure, I'm saddened by the unnecessary loss of life.. but I won't sit here feeling sorry for them. I do feel sorry for the family and children they have senselessly left behind. That's the really tragic part. As for them? They took the risk and lost. I'm just glad they didn't take anyone with them.

  • S Rao

    This sad excuse for journalism fails to mention how the coroner, ME, or forensic pathologist arrived at the conclusion the deceased were traveling over 1000mph. Certainly, death scene investigations (wreckage) and gross and micrroscopic examinations are suggestive of high-energy injuries; however, only a reasonable analysis of the camera footage can conclusively determine the vehicle speed (camera frame rate, no of visualized frames, distance traveled, etc….). This “article” is worthless and inflammatory.

    • Dru

      Now you do read the headline of the articles you read, right?

  • Al Bortz

    Too bad for Paul, personaly, I never drive crazily unless I am alone, I won't put anyone but myself at risk.

  • Drew

    So all these people bashing Paul for being stupid and getting what he deserved. If your kids or friends or relatives are goofing around and get killed by a bus, are you going to say the same thing?

    • earnie mcphee

      My kids, friends, and relatives aren't that stupid. Trying to take a hard corner at 100 + mph ?? Life is tough, it's tougher if you're stupid.

  • RenoRedneck

    Roger was a professional who should have know better! He is directly is the cause of death…..

    • earnie mcphee

      They were both losers. To call either one of these fools a professional is an insult to all involved in the sport of racing.

  • threeravenz

    The ignorant and in mature post comments of assumptions and not
    facts. The fact is,,,no one knows what Paul Walker was saying/doing just before the crash. He could have been yelling for his friend to stop for all we know. I have found that people who feel the need to put others down in situation like this are in reality trying to build themselves to a platform of self recognition. These people lack the mental capacity to form an intelligent calculated comment in just about any situation,,,but especially in their own lives which may be due to for form of dysfunctional family upbringing. They are defective in nature and of of no real value as a human being.

  • Sherry

    Who NEEDS to be going that fast to begin with????

    • earnie mcphee

      True professionals on a closed race circuit. Certainly not a couple of tools on a public street.

  • Dru

    Figures, the one celebrity who DOESN'T do drugs dies in a fiery car crash……oh reality, you never know when to quit…

  • flowergirl

    Why were they driving so fast on a residential street?

  • Kris Noel

    douchebags blame the guy who was NOT driving

    • earnie mcphee

      Those two douchebags are equally responsible. Paul owned the car and Rodas worked for him. They were a couple wanna-be's acting like selfish little children. We have crashes around here all the time caused by jerks like this. Sadly enough, it's usually the innocent that die, while scumbag street racers walk away.

      • Kris Noel

        Lick your own ass

  • RIPpw

    anyone who calls Paul Walker an idiot is clearly a low life who doesn't know anything about him. He was a nice and generous man who clearly had no fault in the accident if his buddy was the one driving. So instead of saying random s*** get your facts straight.

    • earnie mcphee

      Here is a fact for you RIP : Nice and generous people don't risk innocent lives for their own personal pleasures. The movies this IDIOT made condoned the very activities that killed not only him, but kill thousands of innocent people every year. Only by the grace of God those two IDIOTS didn't kill anyone else. Maybe JERKS is a better name. What do you think RIP ?

  • Terry

    My uncle Matt crashed his Porsche into the back of a semi going slow up a steep slope on a highway back in 1986 in Savannah, Georgia. He was going well in excess of 100 mph. He was also killed.
    Prayers for the family and friends.

    • RIPpw

      im so sorry for your loss

  • IAmMelissa

    Aside from being saddened by a senseless tragedy, I am disturbed (more like shocked) by some of the comments on this post. Many people seem to be intent on placing blame on two men that can't even defend themselves. Obviously, this accident, likely brought on by a bad and deadly decision, was NOT intended to harm anybody. Perhaps, we can all reach down (really, really deep, if necessary) and find some sympathy for them and their families. And, if not, at least let them rest in peace without cruel judgment from imperfect human beings.

  • Kari

    It is possible that Paul became deeply entrenched in the movie he starred in ? If that is true, even though he was not driving or drunk or on drugs, he may have not been able to separate high speed from sensibility. Hollywood does strange things to some people. Fast and Furious LIFESTYLES. It certainly was not the car's fault. How ridiculous ! Just like a gun does not shoot someone. It is the person who fires it. Same thing with a really fast car. It's the driver not the car.

  • Allison Kirkpatrick

    Speed kills, people. Obey posted speed limits.

    • earnie mcphee

      Speed in the proper hands and environment is not the problem. STUPIDITY kills. Stupid people die at less than 5 mph every day. These two were a tragedy in waiting. Paul once bragged about doing 185 + on a public freeway in an interview. Neither of these clowns had any respect for public safety.

  • CarGuy

    It shouldn't be too hard to see that speed was in their system

  • a san

    LOL. I'm glad they killed themselves and not any other drivers or pedestrians. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

  • Don B Cooper

    Porsche Was Traveling More Than 100 MPH, Coroner Finds. And because Welker was in the car at that time, he too was traveling more than 100 MPH. Funny how that works.

    • earnie mcphee

      Can you prove that?

  • Lynn

    So unfortunately, this was simply a case of poor judgement on the part of the driver, nothing else.

    • hurricanepaul

      Think how many times both have had a ‘close call’ in the past, where they would “laugh it off”?
      Conversation:
      “Wow! That was close. We almost crashed at 100 miles an hour. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha”
      Kids who worshipped these fools need to be told the truth, that racing on public roads is really, really dumb.

      • earnie mcphee

        Today's culture worships this type of stupidity. Even adults seem to be caught up in this disease called Hollywood. Had these two guys killed a lot of innocent people, they would have been still treated as heroes.

  • hurricanepaul

    ** The deaths have been deemed accidental, caused by an auto colliding with a fixed object.** — How does someone “accidentally” drive their Porsche race car at 100 MPH?

  • Bret Fisher

    They died because of recklessness, which is often mistaken for fun, or excitement, or even masculinity.

    Every day I drive the local freeway to get to work, and I marvel at how people drive. There have always been bad drivers, and some people can't drive a car very well despite wanting to- they're just not good at it.

    Nowadays, I have to wonder what people are thinking about when they're driving. I see, very commonly, (especially with young drivers, male and female) really fantastic displays of recklessness: crossing the entire freeway at one time to exit, vicious tailgating, weaving around through heavy traffic at high speed- as if to gain fifteen feet is a life and death matter (and guess what? It might be.)- and everything else you can imagine. In this you can intuit much about someone.

    The idea that you're in a guided missile weighing some 2,500 pounds or more, and that the physics on a freeway are pretty intense at the speeds involved, and that there are many people around you who'd probably appreciate a bit of cooperation and safety, if you don't mind, or that your adrenalin rush could probably wait until it doesn't risk life and limb, doesn't seem to occur to many people.

    It's just more narcissism, and they know it. It's all about being cool and getting what you want, and recklessness is really quite fashionable now; much of popular culture now is a matter of taking really stupid risks in order to gain notoriety. Right?

    Guess what? Sometimes it doesn't end in everybody talking about how “awesome” it was, what you got away with. And getting people to be amazed at how ballsy you were, or how fearless, or how spontaneous, doesn't seem so satisfying from a hospital bed, huh? Sometimes all these stunts don't come out well, and sometimes you just die.

    Maturity. What the hell happened to it?

  • Tuenesha Nicole Cartwright

    I can see this being a sore spot for many men in America and racing enthusiasts in general as we see on some of these posts. People saying that what you do for fun and thrills is idiotic and dangerous is insulting. That being said, its doesn't mean they are lying. He made a mistake, obviously. However it was stupid mistake (100 in a 35-45 MPH zone) and now his friend and he are dead and we have lost two great people. I don't think they deserved it, but thrill seekers need to respect the powerful and deadly laws of physics, V=d/t. At least respect physics when you are around innocent bystanders and especially when you have people that depend on you like children. Just seems kind of selfish. What a senseless end to life. RIP PW and Mr. Rhodes.

    • earnie mcphee

      We lost two great people ??? Did some other people die? I know a couple of dangerous fools who burned up in their car because of their own ignorance. Who were the great people we lost? Different incident? Must be.

      • Tuenesha Nicole Cartwright

        nah. From what I understand they did a lot of charity and put their money to good use. More than you and I probably do. you can do a foolish thing without being a fool. Your sarcasm is palpable. Good job.

        • earnie mcphee

          Just because you are stinking rich and have a charity doesn't give you the right to shred up public streets endangering people. Had these two geniuses killed a couple of people or a family, would they still be heroes? With today's culture, probably so. Hollywood creepo's are granted special status in the country, unfortunately. And as far as the charity work goes, you'll find out most of these generous movie stars don't use all that much of their own money.

          • Tuenesha Nicole Cartwright

            Did he screw you out of some money or something? Did you fail as an actor and now have a serious case of jealousy? You are WAY too emotionally involved in this my man. I think what they did was idiotic too. I just didn't want to be a douche about it; something its obvious you are not struggling with. You are so caught up in being right you are arguing with people who for all intents and purposes are agreeing with you. I can think he's a great person if I want to geez. You don't run me or anyone else; only your mouth or fingers as it were. We get it you don't like them and you're glad they're dead. Message received.

          • earnie mcphee

            Whoah, Nelly! I think you are way too concerned about my conversations with other people. I never said I wished anyone was dead. You can think he was a great guy if you want. I think people who endanger the lives of others by acts of ignorance are douches. If or when one of these street racers injures or kills someone you know then maybe you won't think the guy was such a hero. This kind of crap is all too common out here. When someone who dies doing this shit is called a “professional driver” I call bullshit. I never even heard of this clown or his idiot buddy. I have heard of the “Fast and Foolish” movies and I know what they promote. I'm not sure why people worship these clowns but they do. He's no different than the rap singers that promote violence and murder and then die in a drive-by. If you don't like me or my posts then don't troll for them. Worship your clown and I'll call him a douche. He did the general public a favor when he effectively took his dangerous and illegal activities off the street . This wasn't the first time he pulled this shit. He once bragged on an interview that he drove down a freeway at over 185 MPH. Normal people go to jail for doing this, but, short of this incident, he was allowed to carry on at will because of his Hollywood star status. The cops are just as guilty for allowing it.

  • Mimi

    For everyone that keeps calling these two men stupid. First Paul Walker's charity, Reach Out Worldwide(ROWW) is a great helper for people that have been hit hard by natural disasters here & all over the world. If any of you knew people that suffered losses in Oklahoma, Alabama, Illinois, New Jersey & many other places were helped by his charity. Roger ran the charity for Paul, because he was the financial person. I bet not too many of you JERKS don't even give $1 per year to a charity! Maybe it's to help others & put your money where your big mouths are! Just think if each of you gave $10 to ROWW, how much it would help people in need. It could be you that needs help next time a tornado or flood or any disaster hits your area. So you need to stop cutting down the charity that Paul started! This will live on by helping others. And for that Paul Walker will not only be remembered for his pretty blues eyes & great smile, but by his generosity also!!! Next, I bet everyone of you have done dangerous things in your life, because you think nothing will
    happen to you. You could have easily had something bad happen to yourself or someone else. If you say you have never took risks, then you are probably lying. People smoke cigarettes every day, knowing there is a chance that you could get cancer. Then I would say you are stupid, because you know the risk & didn't stop! What about driving drunk & killing innocent people. You know what can happen by doing that before you ever take the first drink. So you are very stupid, because you went ahead & done it anyway! I have know several young lives taken by someone driving drunk. When you get into a vehicle with a friend, it doesn't mean you have control over what they choose to do. No, that's not the place to be driving so fast! But it doesn't mean he meant to hurt anyone or kill anyone much less themselves. It was a very stupid decision, but it doesn't mean as a person they were stupid! Unfortunately, two men paid the price of their lives for that mistake, in a very horrible way. So unless you want to be called ugly things after your death, you need to show respect for these two men. Their family & friends are hurting, so why do you need to add to that pain! You should be absolutely ashamed of yourselves! Rest in peace Paul & Roger.

    • earnie mcphee

      I'll tell you who should be absolutely ashamed of themselves … Walker and Rodas. For driving like absolute assholes in a populated public place, and for promoting such ignorant activities in the first place. This type of shit kills a lot people every year, and it's usually the innocent people who die, not the shit stick road racers.

    • earnie mcphee

      And who are you to say we all drink and drive? You can say ugly things, but the rest of us cannot state the obvious? Walker and his pal Rodas died acting like jerks, risking public safety. I don't care what kind of charity activities he had going on, or how big a movie star he was. He doesn't get a pass for selfish dangerous activities. The streets are safer without him and his stupid street racer movies.

    • earnie mcphee

      Maybe Walker should have had a charity for people killed and maimed by jerkoff street racers like himself and his foolish buddy, Roadrash Rodas. I donate to WWP and St. Judes. Two very worthy causes where every dollar is accounted for.

    • Jesemae

      So that makes it okay for him and his buddy to risk other peoples lives on a side street by going over 100 mph? Gimme a break you are a bag full of nuts.

  • earnie mcphee

    Well, at least they didn't kill any innocents. Hopefully these goofy kid movies that promote this kind of ignorant bullshit will be over with. The streets are now safer.

  • leftoverprize

    learn the speed limit or get you own track, oh im so upset we lost another hollywood dip stick

  • earnie mcphee

    Rest in Peace and good riddance. At least they had the decency to take themselves out before killing some innocent people. I understand Mr. Walker had a habit of doing this type of crap. The streets are safer without them.

  • Lori Kay Brown

    I don't care if the driver was fully qualified or God himself, the fact remains that this vehicle was traveling well over the posted speed limit in an area that it was extremely unsafe to do so. They were not on a race track but in a place where civilian lives could have been in danger. Thankfully they only managed to kill themselves. Paul Walker was a good person but he and his “driver” made a horrible decision that ultimately cost them their lives. Arguing over whether or not the driver was qualified to race defeats the point. They died, as have many others who tried to live up to the fast and the furious life style have. I for one am tired of traveling on the highway and dealing with these idiots who think they are filming a movie. It is a tragic end, but it could have been avoided, and I hope the youth who idolize the culture realize their spoilers and exhaust pipes will not save their lives.

  • the nitty gritty

    Man. The Porshe design is so lame. I mean, what kind of an idiot puts the gas tank in the front part of a car – no wonder alot of racers don't dig Porches.

  • Karen Lancaster

    Give me a damn break!! If it was traveling that damn fast it wouldn't of stopped a that fucking tree!! It would've gone of the ledge or smashed into the building! Damn fucking liars! There is more to it I don't care just like there's more to Michael Jackson's death! But we're not gonna hear it because we have the bullshit media covering shit up and blinding us to the legit explanation! I'm glad I'm not brainwashed by the media and narrow minded like some of the morons in the world! Put 2 & 2 together people if the car was going that fast around the curb it wouldn't of stopped right there! It's just a bunch of cover up bullshit! Illuminati bastards!

    • earnie mcphee

      They went through a rather large steel reinforced concrete light pole, and then through a tree. Then they stopped at the tree you see in the photo. One stout steel reinforced concrete pole and two trees. I'm guessing they were going well over 100 MPH. Believe it or not, carbon fiber is pretty damn sturdy stout , better tensile strength than alloy steel, much stronger than alloy aluminum. These clowns were at full tilt.

    • earnie mcphee

      Michael Jackson was murdered by the Russian Mafia under orders from Elvis, who, by the way, is alive and well. He's been living down the street from me for years. Elvis was still pissed off about Michael and Lisa Marie's little fling.

    • Jesemae

      you are certainly brainwashed my dear… maybe its all the bleach in your hair

      • Karen Lancaster

        Screw you fucker! That is not even my real hair it's photoshopped! My real hair is brown! I'm not brainwashed bitch! From all the evidence I've seen and heard and researched myself that's what I believe! People are brainwashed what the fucking media tells them, I'm not! Everyone is entitled to their own opinion so there's mine! The Illuminati are real the symbolism is everywhere moron! Just keep your negative shit to yourself!

  • unwildbill

    A mid-engine V-10 Porsche? How can you keep it UNDER 100 mph?

  • Harlow Rioux

    I've read many posts absolving Paul Walker of any responsibility because he was only the passenger. If Paul Walker was a child that would make sense. But, Mr. Walker was a 40 year old man who was not kidnapped by a stranger and taken on a high speed joy ride ending in his unfortunate death. Mr. Walker knew full well when getting into that car with his friend Mr. Rodas that they were going to `test’ this new car. Meaning speed would be involved in their test. He was not suddenly taken by surprise. Laying all the blame on Mr. Rodas is not realistic or fair. Paul Walker is just as responsible because he chose to let Mr. Rodas drive at a high speed. This reality does not lessen his kindness or wipe away the good he did. It simply means he made a stupid decision.

  • mikenmobile

    Rear engine cars are great to drive…until the rear comes around.Once they get loose it's almost impossible to regain control until you scrub off some speed.He ran out of room .End of story.Sad but true.

  • Deanna

    All I have to say is thank god no-one else was killed by their reckless driving! Sorry but I care about this crash just as much as these two guys would have cared if I crashed and died doing 100MPH. Which I would like to take a pretty good guess and say the wouldn't give a rats ass about me.

  • Jill Dieter

    So sad and tragic. What were they thinking? Thank God no one else was hurt. The need for speed ends in death. Even the best drivers, in the best conditions can have a fatal accident. May they rest in peace.

  • Jesemae

    stupid senseless and selfish

  • Larry Hansen

    As both of these Men found out, being a complete Idiot a few times in ones life will catch up with you one day. Going 100 MPH on any American Street, Lets just say the Driver got what he deserved. Be thankful they did not take anyone else with them.

  • Amanda

    Gosh paul walker was fucking sexy y sis he have to die

  • Hailey

    Poor walker I was so sad when I heard about it.It is now hard to watch fast and the furious oh the tragic