In an hour-long interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper, Stephen Colbert didn’t shy away from expressing his views about the presidency, his regret over inviting Trump onto “The Late Show,” as well as grief, religion and other existential matters.
The interview, which aired on Thursday evening, was at turns funny, conversational, and at the end tearfully emotional as Cooper and Colbert talked about their similar losses — Colbert’s father and brothers died when he was 10; Cooper’s father also died when he was 10. Read on for highlights from the chat.
Colbert on Having Trump Back on “The Late Show”:
“It would be hard for me to be properly respectful of the office because I think that he is so disrespectful of the office that it’s very hard to perceive him as I would want to perceive a president,” Colbert said. “I think just for safety’s sake, it wouldn’t be a good idea.”
Trump was last on “The Late Show” in 2015, when he still seemed an unlikely candidate for president. In the episode, Colbert told Trump, “I want to thank you, not only for being here, I want to thank you for running for president. … I’m not gonna say this stuff writes itself, but you certainly do deliver it on time every day.”
“Heretic to Reality”:
In his Thursday interview with Cooper, Colbert also explained his description of Trump as a “heretic to reality,” in reference to the sin of heresy under the Catholic Church. (Colbert used the phrase last year in a Rolling Stone interview, describing the president as a “heretic against reality.”)
“Our president wants to live in a fantasy world where only the way he perceives the world is the way it is, and only things that sort of serve his vision, and he’s also trying to convince us that that is the only world that exists,” Colbert told Cooper. “That’s heresy against reality. That is proselytizing for the most selfish and the basest instincts that the American people, like all people, have. But he is not appealing to the better angels of our nature.”
Colbert on Whether or Not Trump Is a White Nationalist:
“He called himself a nationalist,” Colbert said, adding that Trump has said he wants more immigrants from Norway, and less from Africa. “I think it’s a fairly simple equation to say that is a white nationalist,” he told Cooper.
Colbert on Whether He Talks About Trump Too Much:
“It’s not like we’re indulging some madman. He’s the president of the united states. Everything he says has an effect. It is right and proper to pay attention to everything he says, because everything he says has an effect.”
Colbert Thinks Trump Keeps Too Many Things Hidden:
“We don’t know his actual skin color, we don’t know what his hair is like, we don’t know what he’s worth,” Colbert said. “For a guy who always likes to have a camera pointed at him and likes to talk about himself, there’s very little we know about him.”
Colbert on What He Learned Dealing With His Father’s Death:
“It’s a gift to exist. With existence comes suffering.”