After ‘Avengers: Infinity War,’ What in the Hell Happens Now?
The way “Infinity War” ended creates a whole bunch of questions about the future of the Marvel Cinematic Universe
Phil Hornshaw and Phil Owen | April 28, 2018 @ 9:30 AM
Last Updated: April 28, 2018 @ 9:39 AM
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(MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD for the ending of “Avengers: Infinity War.” So if you don’t know how it ends and don’t want to know, leave now.)
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“Avengers: Infinity War” leaves the situation in the Marvel Cinematic Universe in a precarious, and fairly horrifying, state. Despite an unprecedented uniting of heroes, Thanos manages to gather the all-powerful Infinity Stones and achieve his ultimate goal: Eliminating half of all life in the universe from existence.
With a snap of his fingers, Thanos causes a huge number of people to simply vanish into clouds of dust, including most of the MCU’s stable of superheroes. People like Falcon, Black Panther, Star-Lord, Scarlet Witch, Mantis, Doctor Strange and Spider-Man, they’re all dead now. Thanos won, and the Avengers and their allies lost.
But, clearly, the story of Thanos and the Infinity Stones is far from over. There are quite a few plot threads still up in the air, as well as major characters who didn’t make it into “Infinity War,” not to mention that we’re getting another “Avengers” movie just a year from now, with two other movies in between. So what in the hell happens next?
First up, there’s “Ant-Man and the Wasp,” out in July, which we know is set, or at least begins, before the events of “Infinity War.” We also know that that movie resolves a plotline from the first “Ant-Man,” about how Janet van Dyne, who suited up as the Wasp with original Ant-Man Hank Pym, was lost in the Quantum Realm. That’s the space between molecules and atoms, so small Pym thought Janet could never return from it, and presumed her dead. But Scott Lang, the current Ant-Man, managed to make it back from the Quantum Realm in “Ant-Man,” reigniting Pym’s hope in finding his wife Janet.
Since we know Michelle Pfeiffer is playing a modern version of Janet van Dyne, it’s safe to say she’ll be rescued from the Quantum Realm. And we’re willing to bet that what Janet learned about the Realm, or what we learn about it in “Ant-Man and the Wasp,” will have a direct impact on “Avengers 4.” Ant-Man wasn’t a part of “Infinity War,” but placing a separate story in between the two halves of that tale implies that it will be a very important piece of this puzzle. Especially considering both Ant-Man and the Wasp are slated to pop up in “Avengers 4.”
For a much deeper dive into how “Ant-Man and the Wasp,” and travel into the Quantum Realm in particular, could play into that “Infinity War” cliffhanger, check out our closer look right here.
The same goes for “Captain Marvel,” the second of the two MCU movies between the two “Avengers” movies, and the one that was directly referenced in the post-credits scene in “Infinity War.” Nick Fury’s final act before he ceased to exist because of Thanos was to contact Captain Marvel, real name Carol Danvers.
Mar-Vell, art by Jim Starlin
That’s probably because Danvers has some serious connections to Thanos. Her story is set in the 1990s, and her origin concerns her meeting up with, and teaming up with, Mar-Vell, an alien of the Kree race. We first saw the Kree, who have an empire out beyond Earth, in “Guardians of the Galaxy.” Ronan the Accuser, the blue villain of that movie, was a Kree warrior. Mar-Vell is a minority white-skinned Kree, which allows him to blend in as human, and in the comics he visits Earth in order to spy and asses humanity’s space flight capabilities and potential to threaten the Kree empire — but he winds up becoming a superhero instead. Eventually, Danvers is subjected to a Kree weapon that merges her DNA with Kree DNA, giving her incredible powers on par with Mar-Vell.
In the comics, Mar-Vell has a long history with Thanos. He previously stopped his universe-controlling machinations and was even named a “Protector of the Universe” specifically to oppose the mad Titan. But Mar-Vell eventually died, and Danvers took up the mantle of Captain Marvel.
All that comics lore can easily be linked back to “Infinity War” as we know it: If Mar-Vell was fighting Thanos, he might have delayed the Mad Titan’s quest for the Infinity Stones. He could have also given his knowledge of how to deal with Thanos to Danvers before he died. That would explain why Nick Fury contacted Danvers in his final moment: She’s been waiting for Thanos’ arrival. The question then becomes, why hasn’t she been called to action before? That’s almost certainly a question we’ll have to wait until March, when the “Captain Marvel” movie hits theaters, to get an answer to.
We also delved much deeper into the many ways “Captain Marvel” will be important to what happened in “Infinity War” — we’re honestly expecting it to function as a direct prequel to the battle with Thanos — and you can read that right here.
Then there’s the matter of Doctor Strange. During “Avengers: Infinity War,” Strange uses the Time Stone to delve into the future and try to find a scenario in which the heroes manage to beat Thanos. He reports back that of the more than 14 million timelines Strange visited, he found one in which they were victorious. So presumably, his actions in “Infinity War” are Strange working to make that one reality come true, even though Thanos’ victory in this movie seems at odds with that idea.
But that’s only the short view. Doctor Strange’s last words before he, too, turned to dust — “There was no other way” — indicate that the future he hoped to bring about is still very much in play, despite what feels like an extremely large setback.
It also seems like Gamora and the Soul Stone have a much bigger role to play in “Avengers 4.” In the comics, the main deal with the Soul Stone is that it traps souls within itself in a dimension called the Soulworld, and it seems “Infinity War” is going the same way, with Thanos finding himself briefly inside the orange Soul Stone world to talk to young Gamora. If that’s the case, there’s definitely more to the emotional conflict between Thanos and his adopted daughter than we’ve seen, and just because so many characters have died doesn’t mean they don’t still have a part to play in the future, since they may very well be stuck in that Soulworld now too.
We also can’t forget the Time Stone’s ability to turn back the clock. Somehow, that seems like a very relevant power right now — though we don’t know if anyone is left who has the ability to use it.
Well, there might be one person, at least going off the 1991 event comic series on which “Infinity War” is very loosely based. That six-issue series, “Infinity Gauntlet,” has little in common with the movie beyond being about Thanos using the Gauntlet to wipe out half of all life in the universe and the surviving heroes having to deal with the fallout. Most of the major players are not part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, like Adam Warlock and the Silver Surfer, and while Doctor Strange has a major part to play after Thanos makes his big move in the book, he’s among the dead at the end of “Infinity War.”
However, there is one big connection: Nebula. In the comics story she’s the one who eventually is able to rip the Infinity Gauntlet off Thanos’ hand — and she’s one of the few main characters who survived the purge in the movie version. Given Nebula’s relationship with Thanos in the MCU, it’s safe to say she’ll be pretty dang important in the next movie even without considering the “Infinity Gauntlet” comic. Anyway, it’s something to think about.
We have a much more detailed rundown of the “Infinity Gauntlet” story and how it lines up with “Infinity War” and the situation in the MCU in general, which you can read right here.
And then there’s Clint “Hawkeye” Barton, who sat out “Avengers: Infinity War.” What’s his deal? Is he hanging out with Scott Lang, doing tiny Ant-Man things? Is he going to come out of retirement after Thanos vanished half his family, angry to an extent we’ve never seen? Is he secretly a shapeshifting Skrull?
Who knows? Of course, this is all speculation based on the story evidence left behind in “Avengers: Infinity War” and educated guesses about what we know about the MCU and Marvel comics. It’s very possible any number of other things we haven’t anticipated could come up. But there are a lot of pieces that seem like they’re coming together in “Infinity War” and beyond that seem very likely to have a big impact on the MCU going forward.
All 57 Marvel Movies Ranked, Including 'X-Men: Dark Phoenix'
With over 30 years of theatrically released Marvel movies, it's always a good a time to rank 'em all, from "Howard the Duck" to this year's "Black Panther," "Avengers: Infinity War," "Deadpool 2," "Ant-Man and the Wasp," "Venom" and "Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse."
57. "Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer"
Just a nightmare. A total nightmare. There have been a number of bad superhero movies, but from the talking gas cloud the filmmakers cast as Galactus to Jessica Alba's dye job, this one transcends bad.
56. "X-Men Origins: Wolverine"
A totally chaotic stir fry of nonsense that tells the story of how Wolverine got his claws. Features an early version of Deadpool (also played by Ryan Reynolds) whose mouth is stapled shut, which should tell you all you need to know about it.
55. "Elektra"
That five minutes when they tried to turn Jennifer Garner into an action star went about as well as it should have.
54. "X-Men: The Last Stand"
Just a total mess, incoherent from the word "go." After losing director of the first two X-Men films Brian Singer to the first Superman reboot attempt, replacement Matthew Vaughn gave way to eventual director Brett Ratner, who might have killed off the superhero genre entirely were "Spider-Man" not blowing up the box office.
53. "Fantastic Four" (2015)
There could maybe have been a good movie in here somewhere -- the cast (Michael B Jordan, Miles Teller, Kate Mara) certainly warranted one. But this Frankenstein of a film is a behind-the-scenes horror story, and you can see it in the totally disjointed final product.
52. "Daredevil"
This was basically "Early-2000s: The Movie," with Ben Affleck, Jennifer Garner, Colin Farrell and Michael Clark Duncan as the main players. The cherry on top of this turd sundae was that damn Evanescence song.
51. "Fantastic Four" (2005)
Tim Story's first "Fantastic Four" is just sort of there, challenging you to remember it exists. With Chris Evans, who played the Human Torch here, going on to embody Captain America in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, that gets tougher every year.
50. "The Punisher" (2004)
This is the Punisher as a straight revenge thriller, and it's not bad. Thomas Jane performs admirably, but the whole thing is missing that extra something that would have elevated it beyond standard genre fare. Setting it in Tampa didn't help.
49. "Spider-Man 3"
Maybe the bad outweighs the good here, but Emo Peter Parker's dance number remains one of the greatest single moments in any comic book movie, sorry, haters.
48. "Howard the Duck"
A notorious flop at the box office and, yeah, it's not exactly "good." But now, 30 years removed from its premiere, "Howard the Duck" is pretty fun as a relic of the '80s.
47. "The Punisher" (1989)
Dolph Lundgren and Louis Gossett Jr. star in a low-rent '80s grunge C-level classic. This one's all novelty value.
46. "Ghost Rider"
For a movie starring Nic Cage about a dude who rides a Harley and turns into a flaming skeleton, this is a surprisingly mundane movie.
45. "The Amazing Spider-Man"
We may never figure out what went wrong with Marc Webb's Spider-Man duology, but his choice of Andrew Garfield to play Peter Parker is still brilliant. It just sucks that this movie doesn't really make any sense.
44. "X-Men"
The beginning of the current wave of theatrical superhero movies, "X-Men" was kind of a cheapie and it showed. Novel at the time, now it just comes off as unremarkable mid-budget action fare as Fox was merely sticking its toe in the superhero waters. Timid.
43. "The Incredible Hulk"
It's sometimes hard to remember that this one counts as part of the MCU, since it placed Ed Norton in the Dr. Banner role since inhabited by Mark Ruffalo in the "Avengers" films. It's also hard to remember because it's generally not memorable.
42. "Thor"
The fantasy Marvel movie is directed by Kenneth Branagh, who covers the whole movie in canted angle shots and theatrical stylings. It's pretty boring, also, but at least it looks cool.
41. "The Amazing Spider-Man 2"
More of the same impossible-to-follow hack-n'-slash plotting from the previous movie, offset by Andrew Garfield continuing to be awesome and Jamie Foxx going way over the top as the big bad.
40. "Thor: The Dark World"
"The Dark World," in contrast to the first "Thor" movie, is certainly not boring. If anything, it suffers the opposite problem, going so hard and fast that it loses substance.
39. "Blade: Trinity"
Starring a pre-Deadpool Ryan Reynolds basically playing a vampire-slaying Deadpool, throwing out one-liners like his mama's life depended on it, this may not a "good" movie, but it sure is fun.
38. "X2: X-Men United"
A big step up from the first "X-Men" both in production values and quality, it still lacks much in the way of energy. Which is inexcusable when you've got Alan Cumming as the teleporting mutant Nightcrawler all over your movie.
37. "Spider-Man"
Sam Raimi truly assembled the prototypical superhero movie with this first entry in the "Spider-Man" franchise, in 2002. Like "X-Men" before it, "Spider-Man" is a bit underwhelming today, but unlike "X-Men" it was proud of its nerd roots.
36. "X-Men: Apocalypse"
Could have been a bizarre ironic summer classic if it were structured like a real movie and had any character development whatsoever. Instead it's just a shot of visual adrenaline that I'll probably want to revisit at some point -- but not when I'm sober
35. "Avengers: Age of Ultron"
"Ultron" is frustrating for what it lacks -- chiefly the feeling that it's advancing the overall story arc of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. But as with the first "Avengers" movie its weaknesses are overcome by great character work.
34. "The Avengers"
The story is a total mess, relying heavily on moviegoers' memories of previous MCU films (if you didn't remember or know coming in what the Tesseract was, hoo boy). But the novelty of the Marvel's first big superhero team-up was irresistible, and director Joss Whedon balanced his ensemble expertly, giving everyone plenty to do so none of them ever fades into the background.
33. "Blade"
Pure B-movie trash, which is fine because that's precisely what it aims for: bloody, crass, awesome. Blade, by the way, remains the only black comic book character besides Shaquille O'Neal's "Steel" to get his/her own movie, though Marvel's "Black Panther" is slated for a 2018 release.
32. "Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance"
For the sequel, they tapped the "Crank" director duo known as Neveldine/Taylor. It was an inspired choice, because "Spirit of Vengeance" was exactly as nutty as you'd hope a PG-13 comic book movie would be. Shame that it was apparently stressful enough to break up the tandem of Mark Neveldine and Brian Taylor.
31. "Captain America: The First Avenger"
A lot of folks like to complain that all superhero movies are the same. But this was actually a pretty good World War II movie, too.
30. "Guardians of the Galaxy"
Plot-wise, it never really adds up to anything, but the strength of the cast and the bizarre world they explore more than make up for it.
29. "Blade 2"
Beloved nerd Guillermo del Toro took over for this one and ramped everything up to 11. More vampires, more blood, more people getting sliced up -- and of course baddies whose jaws can split open and swallow a person's head whole.
28. "Big Hero 6"
Disney Animation Studios made a Marvel movie, and it's really sweet. Sure, it's the kiddie version of Marvel, but that doesn't prevent it from being a wholly satisfying experience.
27. "Captain Marvel"
It’s fine, but “Captain Marvel” feels like a movie from before Marvel Studios really hit its stride in Phase 3 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Right now it’s a movie that seems very much out of place.
26. "Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 2"
An improvement on the first film, and an absolute delight from moment to moment -- but it never quite coalesces into a coherent whole because so many subplots distract from the core story and rob it of its emotional impact. Would be a top 5 comic book movie if it had just reigned in the plot.
25. "Iron Man"
It was Robert Downey Jr.'s reemergence on the big screen, and he's flawless in this origin story that takes Tony Stark from billionaire playboy weapons manufacturer to billionaire playboy other-things manufacturer.
24. "Hulk"
In 2003 the modern wave of superhero movies was still in its infancy, and Ang Lee -- still the best filmmaker to do a comic book movie -- got experimental with "Hulk." And what he made was an incredible melodrama with visual stylings meant to ape comic book panels. It didn't sit well with audiences, but "Hulk" remains one of the most compelling and interesting Marvel movies to date.
23. "The Wolverine"
This was, like, just a legitimately enjoyable melodramatic action movie. Sure, it turns into a video game boss battle by the end, but for most of its running time it's just an actual movie.
22. "Punisher: War Zone"
Whereas the previous "Punisher" movie was melodramatic and contemplative, this one is just murderous. And it's awesome.
21. "Venom"
How can anybody resist the pull of Tom Hardy doing comedy? This movie knows exactly what it's trying to be, and what it's trying to be is dumb and fun and nothing else. And it is extremely fun.
20. "X-Men: Days of Future Past"
Its time travel logic is a bit iffy, but "Days of Future Past" is still tremendously entertaining because, while epic, it's not overly serious. As "Back to the Future" taught us long ago, you can get away with a lot of logical leaps if you strike the right tone.
19. "Iron Man 2"
Swaps Terrence Howard for Don Cheadle, while Mickey Rourke breaks cars with laser whips. Who knows what was going on in this movie, but it was almost OK anyway.
18. "Deadpool"
In the angsty and angry times we live in, "Deadpool" is perfect. Aggressively violent and flippantly meanspirited, it's the exact emotional release we needed.
17. "Avengers: Endgame"
This movie is, frustratingly, far from perfect. In fact, it’s kind of a huge mess. But it’s also awesome and thrilling and hilarious and contains some individual moments that are perfect. I wish it was better, but with everything required of a movie that exists to wrap up 21 movies’ worth of story arcs, I’m glad it’s as good as it is.
16. "X-Men: First Class"
The first "X-Men" movie that could be described as "fun." It's basically two movies crammed into one, story-wise, but director Matthew Vaughn's touch is so breezy and enjoyable that it totally works anyway, thanks in large part to a brilliant cast that includes Michael Fassbender, Jennifer Lawrence and James McAvoy.
15. "X-Men: Dark Phoenix"
The main series "X-Men" movies have never achieved any sort of greatness, but at least "Dark Phoenix" ends the whole thing with one of the best efforts of the bunch. And that sequence on the train in the third act is easily the best action sequence of these movies.
14. "Spider-Man: Homecoming"
Not quite the best "Spider-Man" movie, but still an absolute delight, with a cast full of scene stealers. Michael Keaton as the Vulture makes for one of the best Marvel villains ever.
13. "Deadpool 2"
While you may get whiplash from the "Deadpool" sequel's occasional very serious and emo scenes, the rest of the movie is thoroughly delightful, somehow managing to be even funnier -- and more hilariously violent -- than the original.
12. "Ant-Man"
"Ant-Man" represented a first for the MCU by being a straight-up comedy. And it's a very good one, with a cast that's perfectly suited for it. Aside from Paul Rudd who plays Ant-Man himself, Michael Pena is the true standout as Scott Lang's best friend and former cellmate.
11. "Ant-Man and the Wasp"
It's ever so slightly frustrating that this one doesn't fully integrate into the "Infinity War" situation, but even so it's thoroughly a delight. Evangeline Lilly is so good at the Wasp that I'm retroactively irritated that she didn't don the suit in the previous "Ant-Man" movie.
10. "Doctor Strange"
If it weren't hamstrung with all the requisite elements of an origin story, "Doctor Strange" might have been the best Marvel movie ever. That's the power of the astonishing visual imagination on display here. People love to talk about the nebulous concept of capturing some long lost childlike sense of wonder though the magic of cinema -- "Doctor Strange" is one of the only movies I've watched as an adult that really accomplishes that.
9. "Spider-Man 2"
This is a movie that fully understands its main character and taps into what made him such a captivating figure for so long. Yeah, Peter Parker's a superhero, but he's also a college kid working a minimum wage job to make rent while also taking university physics classes. Peter buckles under the pressure, something we can all relate to.
8. "Iron Man 3"
As far as I'm concerned this is the "Iron Man" movie. Somehow, Shane Black was able to infiltrate the MCU and make a legitimate Shane Black movie with all the wit and raw humanity you'd expect from him. It carries exactly the sort of authorial identity we should want all these movies to have.
7. "Thor: Ragnarok"
A thorough delight. This might be the most fun we had at the movies in all of 2017, and so we can't help but love it.
6. "Captain America: Civil War"
Multiply the two previous best Marvel movies by one another and you get "Civil War." It packs the sort of emotional payoff all the disconnected Marvel movies can't really provide. And as an action film it's easily the best of the superhero genre.
5. "Avengers: Infinity War"
You could certainly make the argument that "Infinity War" does not really hold up on as a complete movie on its own, because it kinda begins with the second act. But I don't care. The culmination of this ten-year shared universe experiment should stand on the shoulders of the movies that came before it. The fact that it packs such a profound emotional punch, however, is what really makes it work.
4. "Black Panther"
It's held back a little by being saddled with standard "origin movie" issues -- introducing audiences to the world of Wakanda isn't a quick and easy task, and it could use an extra 15-20 minutes to flesh out the supporting characters -- but still manages to be the most substantial superhero movie ever. It's kind of amazing that Disney let writer/director Ryan Coogler make this overt a political statement -- it's the most openly political mega-budget movie I've ever seen . Also, while I'm listing superlatives: Michael B Jordan delivers the best performance ever in a superhero movie. Good lord.
3. "Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse"
The best superhero movies, and movies in general, are the ones that are truly most human. And "Spider-Verse," despite being animated, despite the wacky cast of Spider-People, despite the outlandish premise, is as real as movies get.
2. "Logan"
James Mangold's small-scale western is a game changer for the entire superhero genre, daring to defy pretty much standard by which you expect these movies to operate. It's just a great movie by any normal standard. Where "Civil War" elevated the genre, "Logan" opts instead to be something else entirely and we're all the better for it.
1. "Captain America: The Winter Soldier"
The Russo brothers, who made their entrance to the MCU directing "Winter Soldier" before taking the reigns on "Civil War" and, eventually, 2018's "Avengers: Infinity War," really impressed with "Winter Soldier." It's a classic spy thriller with a superhero twist. And Robert Redford as the bad guy is a really nice touch.
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Decades of big screen Marvel adaptations demand a long, ranked list. This is that list
With over 30 years of theatrically released Marvel movies, it's always a good a time to rank 'em all, from "Howard the Duck" to this year's "Black Panther," "Avengers: Infinity War," "Deadpool 2," "Ant-Man and the Wasp," "Venom" and "Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse."
