‘Duck Dynasty’ Star Phil Robertson: What Are His Legal Options?

'Duck Dynasty' Star Phil Robertson: What Are His Legal Options?

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The “Duck Dynasty” daddy is out of a job — at least for now — after making anti-gay remarks; TheWrap explores his legal possibilities

“Duck Dynasty” star Phil Robertson found himself out of a job on Wednesday — at least for the time being — when he was indefinitely suspended him from the hit A&E reality show, after he made several anti-gay remarks in a GQ interview.

It remains to be seen whether Robertson will be reinstated on the show — and it very well could turn out that, after a time-out session to let the controversy cool down, he could be back. But if the Robertson family patriarch doesn't return to the show, does he have legal recourse against the network that airs the series?

Also read: ‘Duck Dynasty': Inside the Decision to Suspend Phil Robertson (Exclusive)

While the specifics of Robertson's agreement with A&E aren't known, entertainment-industry protocol suggests that he would likely have have an uphill battle.

TheWrap spoke to multiple legal experts who said that, if Robertson's contract contained a morals clause — as if often the case with on-air talent — than the reality TV star has little in the way of legal recourse.

Also read: ‘Duck Dynasty’ Fallout: GLAAD Reeling From Biggest Backlash in Years, Says Rep

Often, such morals clauses note that, if talents speaks or acts in a way that insults or denigrates people, the producer reserves the right to suspend or terminate that talent.

And typically, defining such language or actions is left to the discretion of the studio — basically, “if we say it is so, it is.” Tough to mount a legal argument against that.

Also read: ‘Duck Dynasty': 5 Other Crazy Phil Robertson Quotes From the GQ Article

“My guess is that they [suspended Robertson] on the basis of a morality clause,” one entertainment attorney told TheWrap on Wednesday. “Once you sign a reality show contract, they own you.”

Entertainment attorney Neville Johnson also noted that talent agreements generally tend to favor the networks. “If you see these talent agreements, they basically say they can do everything except torture you,” Johnson said.

While some — notably, failed vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin — raised the issue of free speech in defense of Robertson, the “Duck Dynasty” star isn't likely to find legal recourse under the banner of the First Amendment, as that only protects citizens from infringement on the government's part.

Also read: ‘Duck Dynasty': How Phil Robertson Became an Instant Conservative Martyr

“He has no First Amendment [complaint] against A&E,” Eugene Volokh, a professor at  UCLA School of Law told TheWrap. “The First Amendment, the first word of the First Amendment is Congress: ‘Congress shall make no law.'”

And what of the possibility of arguing religious discrimination? While it's true that Robertson's anti-gay comments were couched in the context of Robertson's religious beliefs, Volokh doesn't see that as a likely success.

“It doesn't sound like they were taking him off the show because they don't like the fact that his message is religious; I think they don't like the fact that his message is anti-gay,” Volokh said. “And people of various religions and no religions, some of them  are anti-gay. and i imagine if an atheist on an A&E show said things that A&E thought disapproved of homosexuality, they would deal with it the same way.”

  • telast

    His legal options? This ZZ Top rip-off artist's legal options. I am howling.

    • dave

      Have patience. Gays cannot procreate, sooooo in one generation they will be gone. Only if they include the “opposite sex” will they carry on their perverted life style. That means it must be a three way relationship, where one is heterosexual, for if nothing else to procreate, then degrade into the homosexual relationship again with a child born out of a cheating individual.

      • Andrew

        What an intelligent argument. In one generation they will be gone. How would that be the case? Heterosexual couples would be where homosexuals come from, just as every other human being. Unless all the heterosexuals are going to stop breeding I don't see how your point would ever be valid.

      • TJ

        Thank you for making me laugh out loud today it made my day! Homosexuality has been going on for centuries my friend…

  • A.L. Hern

    Robertson's biggest problem with his contract is understanding any words in it containing more than two syllables.

    • John Smith

      Why do you say that?…

    • Matt M.

      He has a Master's degree you bonehead. You obviously haven't ever heard him speak, his diction and vocabulary far outstrip most people you'll meet.

      • jellytots

        He does not have a Masters Degree , Bonehead , his son does .

        • Linda

          Phil has a masters in education.

        • Richard “The Wine”

          Not sure how long ” a moderation of my comments takes” but I previously posted the ME credentials of Phil Robertson's Wiki Page. M.E., Thank you for the back up Linda

        • Michael Hogan

          he does have a masters in education from one of the most prestige academic schools in the country in SMU where he stared as a QB ahead of Terry Bradshaw you fuckin idiot maybe you should go back to school Mr. Jellytots

          • Pat Conrad Lenzi

            He stared?

          • Jeff Mahaney

            Terry and Phil attended Louisiana Tech on football scholarships. Perhaps Phil later attended SMU for a master's degree, I don't know.

        • I quick

          DID you investigate before you ran off at the mouth IDIOT?

        • ladybugmom

          Yes he does, idiot.

        • Matt M.

          Phil Robertson graduated from Louisiana Tech with a bachelors in physical education and a master's in education and spent the first few years after he graduated teaching. Willie Robertson has a business degree from the University of Louisiana.

          Jellytots, you ought to learn to do some research before you spout off.

        • Matt M.

          They BOTH have masters, Phil's is in education and Willie's is in business. Try doing a tiny bit of research before you spout off.

    • joe bob

      A.L.; You have a loosing point of view check the ratings

      • Steven

        How, exactly, is he on the ‘loosing’ side? The majority of America seems to be behind the Christians on this one.

    • E.C.

      A.L.Hern you are the one with the problem!!!!!! Mr. Robertson is an educated man who has a Masters Degree in Education. So……..he does understand all words in his contract and then some! DO YOU????????

    • Tim4achange

      he has more money and morals than you, of this I m sure

    • I quick

      You Sir, are an IDIOT. He has more money, lawyers advisers that you will have in your lifetime. You are an immature idiot that just spots off because you have that right. Good luck.
      YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!

  • Joe Bob

    A guy is finally on TV with moral convictions and the basis of what founded this country and they suspend him? It is his opinion, since when is that a hate crime?

    • Pat Conrad Lenzi

      No one claims his comments are either criminal or specifically a hate crime.

      • Rich W.

        Some of the gay community are accusing Phil of racial bias and spewing hate speech, Meghan Kelly show Thursday night. It sounded like the “hate speech” was coming from this guest toward Phil.

        • Pat Conrad Lenzi

          What guest are you referring to?

        • Jeremy

          “Some of the gay community are accusing Phil of racial bias and spewing hate speech”

          You mean they speak the truth?

    • dougcanread

      Reading isn't your strong suit now is it? Its called a moral conduct clause. Read again, reread, and then read one more time. If that doesn't work, put on your helmet.

      • crusader1234

        Moral conduct clauses cannot be used to discriminate against Phil on the basis of his religious beliefs

        • Jeremy

          Got to love when people use religion to defend their bigoted comments.

          • Derek Blair

            And I live it when people try to shove their lifestyle down people's throats, then complain whenever someone else returns the favor. You can find homosexuality in every facet of American media proudly displayed despite their underwhelming minority in this country. You can't find a Christian free to speak his mind without condemnation even though sixty percent of Americans identify themselves as Christians. This displays the most lopsided government and media bias and prejudice since Nazi Germany.

    • Andrew Saint

      Moral convictions that he has read in a book, ok. How about we listen to opinions from people that matter, that respect human rights, that formed these opinions based on facts and experiences. Rather than some crappy old book that is clearly entirely fictional.

    • Lily Baldwin

      The ” basis” you speak of that he talked about- would that be when he was talking about the “happy” slaves?

      • crusader1234

        Read EXACTLY what he said on that subject. he said nothing vile or wrong. He ONLY spoke of HIS OWN observations

    • CTJack

      He has not been accused, arrested or indicted for a hate crime. He has been suspended from a TV show for behavior that the company that airs the show finds offensive, i.e. his remarks in the GQ interview.

      • Jeremy

        Certainly no one has the right to be on a TV show.

    • wtf2014lol

      It is far more than biblical immorality. It covers anything that causes harm to the employer. “The actor (actress) agrees to conduct himself (herself) with due regard to public conventions and morals and agrees that he (she) will not do or commit anything tending to degrade him (her) in society or bring him (her) into public hatred, contempt, scorn or ridicule, or tending to shock, insult or offend the community or outrage public morals or decency”!!

  • no name

    Who in the hell is GLAAD what are they, he was speak the truth about this and he belive what the Bible stay and he is going to speak the truth about the bible and I agree with him 100%.

    • Pat Conrad Lenzi

      But you don't get paid to be on TV, and you did not sign an agreement saying you would not say things like this, and you did not breach an agreement you signed. He did.

      • Move on

        Obviously you are against what this country was built on RELIGION, FREEDOM and HAPPINESS. Why don't you move somewhere else and stop damaging this country more than it already is. We the Christians have the same rights as you the non-Christians. I believe it is enough the damage you have done to schools and the youth of this country that now you want to do it to everyone else. He made comments from the bible and that is it. Don't take things out of context for the benefit of a few.

        • Pat Conrad Lenzi

          I was making the point that this is a contract issue, not a Christian versus non-believers issue. I will pray for you to have the gift of understanding of others instead of the anger you foster. Look to Jesus’ words for a way to be less angry in your discourse. I do. At this time when we celebrate the birth of our Lord, it is important to try to get along with people and sadly, you would rather attack them. Clearly the dark one has a hold of your heart. Time to hit your knees and pray about that.

          • Derek Blair

            Pat, your constitutional rights do not trump God's words. If you actually believed in God you would know that all issues are issues between God and sin. If a contract legally signed here on earth deprives God of his glory and a man the right to glorify Him, then that contract should be broken. And one can see how a man dedicated to living out his life in anattempt to glorify the creator of all things good and just would be misled by a contract that implies he live up to a standard of moral integrity when the writers of said contract do not actually have any integrity or morality. They have actually spat on the rights that you vehemently pretend to defend and claim as your own.

          • Pat Hinu

            And what of Phil Robertson negotiating and signing that contract? Wouldn't that be a sin to you? Apparently you get to judge others.

          • Derek Blair

            I judged no one. Find a single quote in my statement that condemns a soul. You rush to judgement and then look for a backwards way to justify it. Not a great platform or strategy for an “intelligent” debate. In no way shape or form could you possibly construe that the signing of his contract was a sin, and I have no doubt that a man of integrity such as he has proven himself to be would have entered into a contract that would deprive him the right to express his religious beliefs and the tv show has made that evident by allowing the entire family to display said beliefs in every single episode. I seriously doubt there is a stipulation within the contract that states that this man must openly declare his love for the homosexual community. Your opinion is just that. You have no foundation to stand on. No immoral act was committed. If you count somebody not agreeing with you or your lifestyle as immoral then there is not a single moral person on the planet. Your response is weak and uninformed, please try harder next time.

          • Jeremy

            God never spoke as God does not exist. All you have is the word of ignorant men.

          • Jeremy

            You have a brain, unfortunately most people on the internet (Or in America in general) do not.

        • Pat Conrad Lenzi

          And I find your comments quite intolerant of MY right to express myself. Free speech is not ok with you if the person does not agree with you? They MUST leave the country? Your reaction is pretty pathetic and hypocritical.

        • Krik

          Move On – Pat is correct – this is a contract issue, nothing more, nothing less. Contracts supersede all other rights because they are entered into willingly and voluntarily. If one party breaches the contract, the other party can terminate. Most contracts do include terms that involve taking actions up to and including termination.

          If both parties agreed to it…then they are legally bound to it. Period.

          • Charlene Scott

            A contract cannot superseded Law. the EEOC enforces laws
            that prohibit discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, national
            origin, disability, or age in hiring, promoting, firing, setting wages,
            testing,
            training, apprenticeship, and all other terms and conditions of employment.
            Race, color, sex, creed, and age are now protected classes.

          • Marvin W.Lambert

            contracts are made to be broken, thus we have that scourge of humanity that hell is carpeted with, attorneys.

        • Mean Monchichi

          Mighty Christian of you to tell someone to leave this country.

        • Rich W.

          Pat was simply stating facts about contracts not an opinion. A&E may be totally within their contract rights to suspend Phil. As for the morality of such a decision, they are suffering the consequences of their decision. We have become so politically correct in the country we are almost paralyzed by fear of offending someone. We are letting a minority dictate behavior to the majority of this country. We have free speech in this country and I support you right to speak your mind, even if your wrong! Thank you and Merry Christmas!

      • s H

        I just read from a reputable news source that the details of his agreement with A&E are not public. Therefore, no one really knows at this point what is in the agreement with them. Any statement to the contrary is pure speculation at this point.

        • Pat Hinu

          Standard clause would be one that would prohibit speech of this sort.

      • Gunny

        He forfeited his rights to speak freely when he signed the contract.

      • Bob

        Pat, we have EEOC laws that say that a person can not be discriminated against because of their religious beliefs. A contract does not override law. And besides that, everyone has the right to speak out and boycott these groups who want to make people afraid to disagree with their behavior. No behavior should be above criticism including religion.

      • Brenda

        I am sure the Robertson's never signed an agreement to deny their religious beliefs. He was asked a question and he answered it honestly. It was during an interview, not even on the show.

    • Charlene Scott

      GLAAD AND LGBT evidently think they are the new god's……they think they run thinks.

      • Jeremy

        Run thinks? Seriously America, focus on education please.

  • Ttron

    The author of this article would do well in purchasing a grammar book.

  • Winston

    Phil Robertson's statements made in an interview with GQ magazine were all about SIN, not specifically homosexuality. There was no hatred or derision. Read the interview completely. All Americans have an express “freedom of speech” and “free exercise thereof” clause regarding religious beliefs. There is however, by A&E, persecution of Phil Robertson by his being released from the Duck Dynasty reality TV show and I'm sure there will be a federal lawsuit coming from Phil against A&E. A&E has everything to lose by supporting what God hates… the SIN of homosexuality (and all sin).

    • merelyashadow

      Winston…EXACTLY!

    • Lily Baldwin

      So when he said blacks were happier as slaves, was that in the Bible, too?

      • linnilu

        A little disingenuous, Lily. He did not say that. Are you lying or too ignorant to read what Phil has said.

      • S H

        Read the article again, Lily. That is NOT what he said, but what you would rather he have said. Do not put words in there that were NOT said.

    • CTJack

      There are no grounds for a federal lawsuit. The freedom of speech provision regulates government's interference with speech, (“Congress shall make no law ….”) not a private enterprise's efforts to curb speech it finds offensive or derogatory.

      • crusader1234

        There are grounds for a religious discrimination lawsuit

        • Jeremy

          Ahh yes, hiding behind bullshit religion.

      • Gunny

        Ignorance is bliss when it comes to “free speech”, I've been amazed how people have interpreted it (and the Bible) to serve their needs. There are many limits – you can't yell fire in a theatre, hate speech, etc.

    • Jeremy

      “Phil Robertson's statements made in an interview with GQ magazine were all about SIN, not specifically homosexuality.”

      This statement shows how dumb Americans are. He is talking about the Sin of being a HOMOSEXUAL, so he IS talking specifically about homosexuality you moron.

  • Stevan Fagan

    so defending morals, gets you fired by the molality clause, is that what you just said?

    • Steven

      That was my take on it, too. Perhaps this author doesn't exactly have a good bead on the situation.

    • Jeff Mahaney

      Instead of suspending him, A&E should consider airing a special where GLAAD and other gay rights groups get together with the clan and have a meaningful discussion. Let's be honest here. Suspending him will only make Phil feel persecuted by a group of people he already disdains. It is not constructive at all.

      • Anthony Burkes

        I don't believe that Phil feels “Persecuted”, I believe he is WAY beyond that foolishness. Nothing in his manner makes me believe that he's got any inkling of the “Victim Mentality” that drives groups like GLAAD. Second, he never said or suggested that he has any “Disdain” for Homosexuals. He simply said he couldn't understand it. I agree with him, I can't see where a mans hairy smelly anus would ever make me give up on women. And finally, your entire premise of a “Meaningful Dialogue” with a group like GLAAD is flawed. If all they wanted was a discussion, they would have emailed him a letter stating their woes. Instead they make a huge public Bru-Ha-Ha over what are clearly his own personal convictions in an attempt to Destroy the man and his show. And in true leftist fashion, their hypocrisy is put out on display as they are being as Intolerant to him and his beliefs as they CLAIM he is being to them. But even more insidious, is the fact that this isn't just a referendum on this one TV personality, they are trying to make this statement to EVERYONE! Believe as we believe or we will attack and destroy you. That is Fascism in the form of Political Correctness. And it is nothing short of EVIL.

        • Kelsey

          I'm sorry, but did you really just reduce your love of women to their vaginas? Wow, glad to know that that's the only thing that matters in a relationship.

          • Anthony Burkes

            That's what you took from that? I pity you. That is the same stupidity that caused this whole thing to happen. Rather than trying to understand a thing in it's entirety, you pick out one thing that you don't like and concentrate on it in the most negative light possible. That's how Liberals think. Again, I pity you.

          • s h

            Did we read the same article? I didn't read that into it at all….

          • Anthony Burkes

            That's what you took from that? Wow, you are PATHETIC. And Obviously not smart enough to be commenting on my posts. Go AWAY DUMB ASS!

    • Glenn Clayton

      He also made anti-Black remarks that why he was giving some time off he WAS NOT fired!!!! It Fox news that causing all this BS just like the war on Christmas!!!

      • pdr

        He didn't make anti statements of any kind…..just spoke of his life experiences and beliefs..?

      • linnilu

        Fox news? I'm surprised you didn't come out and say “It's Bush's fault!”, lol

      • s h

        anti-black remarks? Please quote those remarks. I didn't read any of that when I read the interview.

    • g in Savh

      Yes, really sad! What a convoluted world that has become.

  • Johnny Richard

    They can all go to hell, this country needs a good revolution to reset all the damage these democrats have done over the years, as far as these rhino republicans they all need to be removed for complying with the assholes. This is a violation of the Constitution. Just like ole Obozo has been killing people the whole time he's been in office the stupid nigger needs to be in jail for TREASON.

    • SAWEED

      WHAT HAPPENED TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH…WHAT HAPPEND TO AMERICA ….LET HIM SAY WHAT HE WANTS…I AM WITH HIM…

  • Steven

    I'm not surprised that his family is standing by him, and not even considering continuing the show without him. They can move to another network and continue raking in money hand over fist; attempting to demonize Christian beliefs held by the majority of Americans will cost A&E hugely.
    I predict that retailers will not be so foolish as to follow suit.

    • Pat Conrad Lenzi

      And he will probably owe A&E money for costing them money due to this controversy.

      • Wrong

        Owe A&E whom he made millions for? A&E kicked him out, They are the ones who cost themselves money

        • Pat Conrad Lenzi

          Depends on what their mutual contract says, and who is determined to have breached it, how the “cure to the breach” is handled, and so on.

          • iceman

            pat your talking the law to people who don't respect the law

    • Michael Macaulay-Birks

      I'd bet my last dollar that A&E owns the rights to that show

      • Average Joe

        Not after their sued.

      • Steven

        They'll likely have to rename it, at the very least. Hopefully that's the extent of it, but A&E is probably not managed by fools.

        I'd be willing to bet that Phil's suspension was not a knee-jerk reaction. It all just seems too pat for me. It's just not good business sense to cater to a vocal minority that is not a significant part of the show's audience.
        I think they intended to axe Phil in an effort to better control the other cast members in his absence; perhaps they hope that, now, they can eliminate the family's mealtime prayer from the program (along with who knows what else). They've tried that already, but Phil refused.
        Actually, this fight has been a long time coming in America. Christians are often portrayed as radicals, which is largely untrue, but they are steadfast in their beliefs and loyal to one another. Maybe this debacle will end up being a good thing in the long run, as it will bring people together and America sorely needs that right now.

        • Mean Monchichi

          Loyal to one another as long as they arent gay right? I was always under the impression that your Christian teachings were “hate the sin, not the sinner”.

          • Joseph G Watson

            ok stupid he did not condem a person he condemed the act. among other acts. name one LGBT he named.

          • Mean Monchichi

            So, based on your deductions oh wise one, its ok to degrade a group of people just not an individual? Sounds like bigotry to me.

          • s h

            Based on the real definition of bigotry, Phil is not guilty of bigotry. Quote the exact phrase he said that you think qualifies him as a bigot.

          • s h

            I think Phil stated that he loved ALL people. Only portions of his interview are being quoted and taken out of context.

          • Mean Monchichi

            You need to watch the video of him as a guest speaker in a church condemning all gays to hell.

            bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats or views other people with fear, distrust, hatred, contempt, or intolerance

      • Kay

        A & E owns the rights to the “Duck Dynasty” brand…which is why I refuse to buy any Duck dynasty products at this time. However, everything marketed under Duck Commander is the family. I will support the family 100% for in my opinion they did nothing wrong. He was asked a question and he answered that question based on is education, his beliefs and his life experience. People simply need to get over it.

      • Mean Monchichi

        As well as the non-compete clause that is usually in EVERY contract LoL

  • Tim4achange

    I hope a decent network picks up the show with Phil in it when the family tells this asshole network to shove their contract up their homo ass……..

    • Ashitari T

      A&E might own the show, which means they'd have to sell the show to another station to air. You don't see off-air ABC shows going to NBC, they are just gone.

    • Mean Monchichi

      Pretty sure a non-compete clause was signed so there will not be any picking up of this show

      • Pat Conrad Lenzi

        That depends – if the contract is terminated, does the non-compete clause survive the termination of the agreement?

        • Jimmie Roger Carroll

          yes

          • Seth

            Depends. I'm not a lawyer, but I took a college class on business law and we talked a lot about non-competes. Some states simply will not enforce a non-compete agreement when someone is fired. A&E is headquartered in New York. Not sure who would have jurisdiction over any agreements, but New York tends to be tough sledding for the enforcement of non-competes where an employee has been fired. Now, a suspension the functional equivalent a firing?

            Of course, the Robertsons don't really NEED the show. They're already millionaires. If they want to stay celebrities they could cut out the middleman by hiring a director and post shows of a different title on a blog. It's not like they're playing characters that A&E owns. It's
            “reality” TV. Throw in some prayers and a commentary on the moral rot in Washington and you have . . . constitutionally protected speech.

            Back when I worked in TV the only way that you could get broadcast quality video was to splash out a 100k each for a camera. Totally different price point now.

      • S H

        There are legal ways around a non-compete clause.

      • MaroonVee

        Isn't the family sticking by Phil.. in other words supporting his religious beliefs? So what's AE going to do, shut down the Christmas Special and the next season? Do you see what AE made such fools of themselves for caving to a tiny minority ?

        • Mean Monchichi

          They own the rights to the show. Its A&Es show, not the Robertsons. A&E can shelve it, air it, sell it, whatever they please. I dont think they made fools of themselves. I applaud that they took a stand against bigotry of the minority. Its been a long time coming. And, dont get me wrong. I am 100% heterosexual.

        • Cathy CC.

          By “tiny minority” you mean people who arent homophobic assholes? Newsflash its not a tiny minority.

      • Marvin W.Lambert

        Duck commander and Buck commander was here before D

        • Marvin W.Lambert

          duck dynasty was ever thought of.

    • Lee Malatesta

      To clarify what Ashitari said, it depends on if A&E owns the show or the show is owned by a studio with a contract with A&E.

      It is not all that common for shows to jump networks only because when shows get canned, it's usually because of poor ratings and no one wants to buy a show that's doing poorly. But shows with good ratings do frequently switch networks. Ultimate Fighter went from Spike to FX to Fox Sports 1. More famously, Wheel of Fortune started on ABC and ended up on CBS. Similarly, Taxi fled from ABC to NBC.
      A show that is popular like Duck Dynasty would certainly get snapped up if it is for sale and A&E no longer wants it. But the question is really whether or not it is for sale. If A&E actually owns it rather than licensing it from an independent studio, it may not be for sale. Why would A&E sell a high rating show to a competitor?

      OTOH, A&E could try a slight of hand. A&E Enterprises owns a large number of channels: History, Military, Bio, Lifetime, etc. They might trying to switch the show from one member of the family to another in order to give the appearance of the Robertson's sticking to their guns and giving it to The Man when really, they just get moved from one channel within a megacorp to another.

      • MaroonVee

        Glen Beck has made an offer… maybe they will go to his channel…

      • crusader1234

        Can't they simply change the name of the show?

  • metazip

    I hate to tell the writer, Tim Kenneally, that the first amendment applies to everyone not just against the government, else there are hundreds of cases investigated and won by the FBI that can be nullified.
    What the clan needs to do next is get a court injunction from airing any episodes, new or repeats, selling any Duck Dynasty gear and any other made for profit deal. Hurt them in the wallet, then walk away to another network. Follow the money boys, follow the money.
    If that happens you will also see a mass exodus of other reality shows and A&E will go bust.

    • About the First Amendment

      “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

  • Michael Hogan

    Screw A&E I am not religous nor am i athiest but I did serve my country in Afghanistan for the U.S Army and that means i stand by the first amendment in our right to freedom of speach as well as i do stand by protecting someone and there religous believes I fought for those rights i thought the United States is a free country I hope Phil, Willie, Jase, Jep and the rest of the family and cast Fuck A&E right in the ass like the Queers A&E are DD take your hillarious awsome show to a network whom appreciates your family and your believes

    • Reks

      I am a Wiccan who also served in the U.S. Army. What ever your religion, what ever your sexual orientation, I fought in Iraq to uphold the constitution and defend the American people. Though I am not a fan of the “Camouflage Cult” that pop culture has created, I enjoy the show, as well as the strong family and spiritual values. Yes I am Wiccan and I am well educated on the beliefs of Christianity. However, I am not offended by his comments. I think that A&E blew this way out of proportion and Im glad to see that his family is sticking by him through this!

    • Jim

      Nice spelling and sentence structure there pal, Hopefully your wife is a little smarter for the sake of any kids you create.

      • Veronica

        Was that “dig” really necessary, Jim?? Seriously! smh

      • Marian

        Jim: That was a mean statement. It has nothing to do with this article. Why make it?

        • Dick

          See that is the example the liberal side uses. I can say anything I want, but you can't. This is an obvious statement by Jim, who is having trouble taking on the meaning of the statement and resorting to attacking the messenger. this is often done by comedians, and those that have their own agenda. Next to appear will be a debaters tactic, called controlling statements, you know the ones that no one can argue with yet have no bearing on the topic…politicians use it a lot. Jim…sorry bud you are just to predictable to be taken serious.

      • Debi

        Jim, You are just a rude person! How is that for sentence structure PAL?

      • Lowry Shank

        FU Jimbo

      • linnilu

        Who died and made you the spelling and grammar Nazi?

      • s h

        Argumentum ad Hominem – a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument.

    • Kelsey

      Glad you fought for a right that you didn't bother to read….the first amendment protects us from the government enforcing laws to punish or prohibit public expression of ideas. Last time I checked, A&E was not the government, Phil has not been tortured by the government for his beliefs and he is not in jail. The first amendment protects us from being persecuted from the law…not from public backlash for stating an opinion.

      • Nathan Burks

        Kelsey..The backlash is from the pro Robertson people..A&E stepped in it on this issue

      • linnilu

        You know, all I heard after the Dixie Chicks stuck their feet in their mouths, was that it was their right to free speech to say what they did. Funny how the libs that cried (not citing you personally, I don't know you) free speech violations over the Dixie Chicks now sing a different tune. But you are right: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” But those of us who back Phil also have the right to dump A&E, just like so many of us dumped the Dixie Chicks, just like so many libs dumped Chick-fil-A. Will it make a difference to A&E? That remains to be seen. Personally, I don't care. I know the Robertsons will be just fine, and I know I do not care to watch the network again. Just as they have the right to run their business they way they want, I have the right to ignore their business, and follow Duck Dynasty to another network if it does move. I also have the right to not spend my money on any Duck Dynasty items that benefit A&E. Gee, isn't freedom grand?

    • Andrew Saint

      Thank you for killing innocent people in a phony “war on terror”.

      • Lowry Shank

        FU and rot in hell

        • Andrew Saint

          Don't get mad and wash that blood off your hands :)

          • Joseph G Watson

            Andrew you are an idiot phony war on terror where you on 9/11 moron and I am sure there is no blood on your cowardly hands.. when did you serve anything other than your own appetite and desires?

          • Andrew Saint

            Another brainwashed american, nothing to see here. Sad you are unable to think yourself and need your government, a constitution or a book to form your opinions for you.

          • Joseph G Watson

            To stupid to continue wasring time! really a picture of a lion??
            maybe a garden slug, would be more apropriate.

          • Andrew Saint

            I accept your surrender. Next time don't take on someone clearly superior to you :)

          • linnilu

            yawn

      • linnilu

        Oh, you are the butt wiping poster from earlier comments. I see you seem to be still young enough that Mama wipes yours for you. Grow the hell up.

    • linnilu

      Thank you for your service.

  • Lovethisbusiness

    Who knew all these crackers read The Wrap?! Wow. Do they know that they've stumbled upon an entertainment business journal?

    Hi, y'all, you've hit the jackpot! Talk directly to the commie Jews who give you your entertainment! Make sure to underscore how the entire U.S. of A. agrees with your silly beliefs (like you're the guys who believed Fox News that Romney was going to win the election – LMFAO). Uh, sorry – you're the fringe, even though everyone seems to look like you at your local Walmart.

    Oh and by the way, the very shrewd Phil Robertson, and everyone involved, will exploit this calculated and strategic “crisis” for all it;s worth. This is just an extension of the unscripted storytelling that goes on in “Reality TV.” Spoiler alert: it's not “reality,” it's “entertainment.” Just like pro wrestling. Oh – y’ all thought that was real, too? Sorry to burst your bubble, Bubba.

    • Summer Smith

      “crackers”, “stumbled upon” (as in stupid), “commie Jews” (attempt at sarcasm?), “silly beliefs” (different than you?), “fringe” (ditto), “everyone seems to look like you at your local walmart” (attempt at humor?), “bubba”.
      You're not too judgmental yourself and a tad full of hate now are you friend?

      • metazip

        Lovethisbusiness is just another paid Obama troll spreading the false messiah's message…

        • taipan

          how did Obama get in to this this is about A&E

    • Tim Hunter

      I love you for this. Finally a comment I enjoyed reading. Good gravy….this country is full of a bunch of backwoods knuckle draggers.

  • Martyr

    It looks like we have a bunch of Constitutional lawyers that don't have a clue about the 1st amendment an how it's written or what it means. They don't have a leg to stand on in court! Go read the Supreme Court cases and you will become educated in the law.

    The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.

  • Thomas

    Lets see…anti-gay… I read that he said, according to the Bible, sinners won't inherit the Kingdom of God. He mentioned many of the sins listed in the Bible. He said he doesn't understand gay sex. He doesn't strike me as anti-gay. Do I need to be gay to discern what is anti-gay?

    • Average Joe

      Halleluiah Brother…..can't remember all he included but why aren't all the bankers and CEO and prostitutes, etc. getting in line to bash old Phil.

      • merelyashadow

        Thank you Thomas. Finally!! Someone who isn't reading everything in history into his comments.

      • Whatevs

        Because they know they are sinning. The gay's do not think they are sinning.

    • Andrew Saint

      The fact he is saying it is anti-gay. If he wants to believe in wizards and magic, fair enough, but to spew those vile comments to the media is disgusting. There are many things I don't like, but I keep it to myself, what is the point in upsetting other people that have done nothing wrong to me?

      • Joseph G Watson

        andrew it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool. than to opern your mouth and remove ALL doubt.

        • Andrew Saint

          Says the religious nut, lol. You do realise you and other religious people are the laughing stock of the world, right? Keep believing in your fairytales, I'll continue to wipe my ass with the pages of the bible.

          • Mark Alan Heard

            I think the filth is in your head but wipe whatever needs it. I am glad we could bring you some enjoyment.

          • linnilu

            And Sweetheart, wiping your butt with anything, if you can find it with both hands, is your prerogative. Just like our religious beliefs are ours.

          • Jeremy

            Holy shitty grammar Batman!

          • toodles

            And your doing exactly what the left is doing…..if you disagree with someone's beliefs, call them names. Perhaps you should educate yourself so you can at least debate your point of view without name calling.

          • Jeremy

            Starting a sentence with the word and, how dumb are Americans?

          • Linda

            I acknowledge your right to non-belief. Why cannot you not extend the same courtesy to me?

          • linda

            The really sad part is if you new what was going on in the world that there are many people groups running to know the word of God. Also, then other religions are fairytales as well. Say that to a Muslim, Muslims do not believe in homosexuality as well.

          • Brenda

            Joseph,
            I am so sorry you feel the necessity to make such a statement. You need help.

          • Guest

            Says the sick perverted buttbugger with the d*ck in his mouth

          • Guest

            Wipe the feces off your lips.

        • Beth

          Said a coward.

      • Beth

        So, if you were asked a question or your opinion on a matter, you'd lie rather than answer honestly?! He was asked a question during an interview, and he gave his honest answer. Whether you or I agree isn't the issue.

        • Daryl

          Thank you Beth, If you don't want my honest opioion! then don't ask for it.

          • Jeremy

            What is an opioion?

    • wtf2014lol

      It is far more than biblical immorality. It covers anything that causes harm to the employer. “The actor (actress) agrees to conduct himself (herself) with due regard to public conventions and morals and agrees that he (she) will not do or commit anything tending to degrade him (her) in society or bring him (her) into public hatred, contempt, scorn or ridicule, or tending to shock, insult or offend the community or outrage public morals or decency”.

      • Sherrie Davis

        WTF2014lol, Then the same should apply to all that tending to shock, insult or offend the community or outrage public morals or decency. Christians are shocked and outraged that in their workplace they have to be tolerant to free speech from gays about their lifestyle. The same laws that keep gays from being fired for this activity also states that you can't be fired for your religious beliefs. So if religious beliefs can't be discussed by a Christian in the work place then homosexual discussions should also be halted at the door of your employers so that 90% of their employees are not offended.

        • Jeremy

          Wow, America is full of retards.

    • Jeremy

      Which shows how dumb you are.

  • http://profiles.google.com/sanddog Ms Anonymous

    Would A&E seriously try and use a “morals clause” to justify firing someone for expressing a religious belief?

    • I quick

      Take Family and the Show to a new Production Company and continue on with the greatest Reality show on TV.

  • Dick

    Legal options? Hell file rape charges, that really is what is going on with GLAAD AND A&E. You know I was not a duck fan, thought the show pretty lame, but more power to them. Then along comes some gay outfit forcing themselves on someone else again. Yes, pushing their wants, needs, and desires on someone. I am not apposed to people with like beliefs pursuing something they want to do as long as it does not affect others. But now here we have another example of a group forcing their wants on someone else labeling it whatever self indulging or self gratifying statement they choose. Forcing yourself on others is often referred to as rape. Sorry we all have rights not just a select few. How about this, lets boycott A&E, I have no problem doing that. Asked an honest question and giving an honest answer as to your own beliefs should not be admonished. If more people would speak the truth then maybe we can have the tools to understanding. Oh and by the way now I am a duck fan. Phil, nothing wrong with speaking the truth, and I saw no where you were being unfair in your statements.

  • Tom

    If Phil Robertson doesn’t come back to the
    show I will not allow my family to watch any A&E shows ever again. The man
    is speaking from the bible and I think more people should read it maybe the
    world wouldn’t be so mess up.

    • Shanarieva

      Really? He's speaking from The Bible, as in the original? I don't think so. That book was hand copied for how long before printing press? It's been translated and edited countless times and probably bears little to no resemblance to what was originally known as ‘The Bible'. Beyond that, the current bibles condone slavery, torture, and murder yet those sections are conveniently forgotten when people quote the good book.

      • Average Joe

        That does not make it untrue either. Where you there when it was written? It's in there now and people believe and they have that right.. Get over it.

      • Phil

        Reaallly… Have you ever actually read it? And read the context ? Slaves were freed every seven years but most of them stayed where they were of their own free will because their masters were so good to them.

      • bassman

        Shanarieva, its clear that you are someone that does not do any research into a subject before you speak. Many books besides the Bible confirms that Jesus was here and the actions he took were true as the Bible stated. Come out of you tin can and do some research.

    • BeaBow

      OK, Tom – you're boycotting A & E. Remind me what network you'll be tuning into in January to watch these biblical warriors? Or are you boycotting selectively, just as you cherry pick from the bible?

    • Andrew Saint

      The bible is a load of horse crap, and you know it. It's sole purpose was to control society by putting the fear of a higher unstoppable power in peoples minds. To live your life by a book is moronic, especially a book that has not stood the test of time.

      • moralityiskey

        Those who wish to commit sin conciously are the same ones who choose to call the bible crap. You can break mans law and might get by with it. Break God'S law and you will ultimately answer for it. Mr. Robertson was just as entitled to say what he said as the gays and lesbians think they are to conduct themselves in such manners.

        • Andrew Saint

          Laughing at you right now. Please come back to reality. The bible is a book, it was written, it didn't magically ascend from the heavens into your hands. Do you really think every word of it is true? Are you really that naive? Or you just suffering from a mental illness?

          • TheNecron

            Everyone needs to stop arguing over religion, im an atheist but i dont go spouting about how much better i am than people who do worship a god, it is irrelevant to this argument and you are just a doucer with a huge ego

  • ken

    its is totally wrong that's what is wrong with the world today god made man and woman … well better take preachers off tv to for talking about gays… I personally think being gay is wrong god made woman for man

    • Andrew

      Think outside of the box for the moment. The world is quickly becoming overpopulated, maybe homosexuality is God's solution to the problem. It is found in around 1500 species after all.

  • JEFF

    IF A&E TAKES DUCK DYNASTY AWAY FROM US, WE SHOULD ALL BOYCOTT THEIR #1 SHOW – WALKING DEAD.

    • Veronica

      I dont watch that—-Duck is the only show on their network that ever got my attention…..if the show went to another network, it would be fine with me! The show brings people to A&E and without the show, I foresee they will lose alot of viewership…..just sayin…

    • Rebecca2277

      The Walking Dead isn't on A&E lol.

    • metazip

      Why wait…do it now until Nancy Dubuc ,the CEO who fired Phil, and Abbe Raven, the chairman, resign.

      A&E, Agents of Evil, The company is a joint venture between Hearst Corporation and Disney-ABC Television Group, a subsidiary of The Walt Disney Company.

      For those who haven't sent emails yet… A&E Contact Info: Ms. Abbe Raven, CEO Abbe.Raven@aetn.com WHITNEY GOIT (SR. EVP) whitney.goit@aetn.com ROBERT DEBITE…TTO (EVP) robert.debitetto@aetn.com COLLEEN CONWAY (Director of Non-Fiction Programming) colleen.conway@aetn.com GENERAL EMAIL: ae.viewerrelations@aetv.com

      Here's the big advertiser list. Look them up and contact them. Let them know you OPPOSE A&E's discrimination of Phil Robertson. You know what to do! (Make sur…e they know you OPPOSE A&E's move against Robertson. Don't let them think you oppose Robertson.) Sensodyne T-Mobile Samsung Motorola Walgreens IHOP Macy’s Nokia Microsoft Verizon Bass Pro Shops *Brass Pro Shops carry Robertson's merchandise!

      Buy Duck Commander gear NOT Duck Dynasty gear as A&E owns Duck Dynasty…Hurt them in the wallet!

  • DEM

    A&E may believe they can do as they please due to a “morality clause” but good ol’ fashion common sense will prevail. If A&E executives are so unhappy with Phil then fine, let them wallow in their own convictions. I am positive other networks will be more than happy to step up to the plate.

    A&E executives need to come down from their high horses before they take a major fall.

    For goodness sake, it's Christmas!

    Peace & Blessings to all. – DEM

  • bigdaddydoug

    I support Phil and his family 100%
    We all have the right to express our feelings and beliefs when asked a question. No matter what their religious, race, sexual orientation, or whatever. Are we supposed to lie or say “no comment”, that can be totally misconstrued into anything the media wants?
    Sometimes feelings get hurt, but that is no reason to violate our constitutional rights.
    If Phil is not reinstated, I personally will boycott A&E, as will thousands of other viewers, I'm sure.
    Dog the Bounty Hunter, after his little scandal of “putting his foot in his mouth”, still has a successful show…on another network.
    We have become a country full of “politically correct” sheep and that maybe the real danger in our society.
    Oh yea, one of my best friends is gay, and two others are black and one of those guys is in an bi-racial marriage. They all think Phil's plight is a bunch of crap!
    I am not particularly religious, and only read a little of the bible, but have read the whole constitution, I support that and Phil.

  • James Morris

    Morality clause, Phil was opining his morals. Homosexual acts are immoral.

    • Andrew

      In your opinion.

  • Deadeye

    Come on guys…it's a show about Duck calls…just turn the channel.

  • jxp

    The country is so far gone that stating a fact and the truth is being called controversial. He just said what 90% of the people believe, know and feel.

  • Shanarieva

    He's free to say what he wants and other people are free to call him a bigot. The right to free speech does not guarantee you a job. Doubt me walk up to your boss and tell them that it's your opinion that they're a lazy brain-dead idiot. See how long you still work there.

  • Donna Lea Feddern

    it is not a hate crime

  • Kevin

    GLADD says it is not right for Phil to say what the BIBLE has tought all of use as children growing up in this great nation of ours well I personely am not gay but have many gay friends that are suppose to be offened by his commits well they tell me that GLADD needs to speak for themselves because their not offfened by Phils commits.
    So A&E and GLADD need to get off their asses quit worrying about the all mighty buck and trying to destroy a damn good Family man one that believes in GOD,Family ,our Country and man kind.
    They need to listen to the public out cry on this subject shut to hell up drop this and move on and quit being a bunch of damn idiots only wooring about their selfs and no I else.

  • Linda Scott

    When Phil answered a question that was asked of him truthfully, he got into trouble with A&E. Didn't A&E have him on the show, because he says what he believes to be right according to the Bible, this is what he did and they suspend him, f0r being Phil. I'm confused!!!!

  • dale

    Cast the first stone. I've heard other people say things about other groups and nothing was done. Our rights are slowly getting taken away . We have got to wake up and get back on track and put a stop to it before we become a country divided. We are suppose to be a free country but now we have got to do certain things ,where is our freedom. It's a tv show and words are said and that's been going on a long time other wise you have to take off most of the comedies and programs people wake up and quit being followers like sheep. I may or may not go along with what they say but there is a button that allows you to change your program if you don't like what people are saying.

  • tom

    OK he has his own opinion. He has moral convictions. Simple A & E is upset becuase they can not control him. The A & E CEO sounds like an Obama Zombie to me, wants to control everything and every one.

  • jerry

    hello

  • jerry

    this whole story is a joke.

  • jerry

    he did not scream and shout.he did not call gays fags. he said what he felt about them.

  • jerry

    he told the truth based on how he felt.

  • jerry

    i do not hate any one. but i do not like gays. i donot like them geting married and having kids

  • Allwillseeoneday

    Someone willing to tell THE TRUTH about homosexuality being sin according to the Bible……The TRUTH Is God Hates sin but Loves The Sinner…so…God Hates Homosexuality but Loves the person commiting the Sexual Sin…….Just like God hates stealing but Loves the thief……..Real easy to understand

  • jerry

    marriage is between a man and and a woman

  • jerry

    bring back phil

  • jerry

    when two men can have kids after having sex in their.butt. then they can get married.

    • serdude1968

      So if a heterosexual couple choose to not have children, or unable to have children, are you saying that they should not be permitted to be married?

      • jerry

        hello
        so happy to hear from you.are you gay or a gay lover. or are you just a dumbass.marriage is between a man and a womn.two men were not made to have kids with each other.a man is made to have sex with woman to have kids.i sure hope you kmow that.i have never heard of a man havimg a baby. maybe you have

      • jerry

        gay sex is not the same as sex as between a man and a woman.i should have to tell you that.

  • ReadyfortheRapture

    Why is everyone trying to please the LGBT Community? It's like Hollywood, the media, and left wing politics are bending over backwards to make sure a homosexual person does not get offended. What about all the Christians who are regularly offended and then criticized when they speak out about it? I am so sick of it. Phil Robertson quoted the great book, the Bible, the same scripture thus very country was founded on. Somewhere down the line people let the Devil take over and next thing you know Christians and Christianity are offensive. I think it's time that this country, and really this world, has a ‘Come to Jesus Moment'.

  • Allwillseeoneday

    I wonder…..Who is afraid of the truth?……Those who do not want to face The truth that Homosexuality Is Sin……..Just like Stealing is Sin, Liers are sinning when they lie, Adultery is sin, Fornication (thats sex before marriage) is sin….and Homosexuality is a Sexual Sin…….The Great News is that God Loves All who sin, that is why He Sent Jesus to Save us from our sin when We Receive the Salvation Christ offers us that gives us The power to free us from sin…….But if you just love sin so much you want to keep it…well…”the wages of sin is death but the Gift of God Is Eternal Life through Jesus Christ”……..The Choice Is Yours……….Merry Christmas with Love

    • Enlightening Guest

      ok, you think homosexuality is a sin, i personally don't but im not about to flame on you like a moron, however there are quite a few homosexual Christians and i think you need to widen your views, how does homosexuality cause anyone any harm? I agree with other sins but i think homosexuality is not something that sinful (im not a homo or christian)

  • Karen0326

    There is a really easy way for them to get out of their contract and have A&E suspend them all so they can walk away….. they all just go to a magazine and or a tv station and say exactly what he said. A&E suspends them all they move on life moves on A&E is out millions and they still have their values, and family morals intact. c'est la vie

  • Hope Faith

    I think you are missing the point – the Robertson family made their millions long before this TV show! I don't think Phil Robertson is out of anything – but A&E will be when the family takes their Duck Commander pot of gold somewhere else! You don't understand the moral values of this family at all!! So sad for you.

  • BRobCleveland

    The perfect solution, of course, is to keep paying him, but just not have him on the show at all.

  • Tracy Willits

    It sounds like the best thing they can do at this point is to go “Network Shopping”. Their largest sponsor said they would not be pulling the contract so my guess is that the other networks (non-liberal) will be standing in line to sign! I didn't realize the A&E was so controlling. This is supposed to be a reality show-not scripted or sensored! I wonder about their other “REALITY SHOWS”.

  • Donny

    Phil Robertson did nothing wrong. He has every right to say what he wants. gay people are running around saying look at me, i'm gay and no one is mad at them
    THE CONSITATUTION SAYS THAT HE HAS THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
    can people get mad at him, yes. can people not like him, yes. can they kick him off Duck Dynasty, NO!

    • serdude1968

      It is not about the First Amendment. DEMANDING THE RIGHT TO BE PAID BY
      AN EMPLOYER WHO BELIEVES THAT YOU ARE NOT FULFILLING THE TERMS OF A
      CONTRACT is not the same as demanding the right to speak. You guys
      actually LOVE big government when you can use it for your own purposes.

  • Civi Rights

    For most Christians their belief in the Bible makes them by definition anti-gay. So this is a religious issue. The interviewer asked Phil what he viewed as sin (a religious term and concept) and Phil answered using scripture as his proof text (religious view). So if an employer says that Phil is suspended because his Biblical view does not line up with their view, that's religious discrimination which is made illegal by Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Has Lawyers been wrong before? Yes, 50 % lawyers lose in court every day.

  • John Tierney

    I'm Not a lawyer. But I think that A&E is in real trouble on this one. Not only does Mr. Robertson have a right to sue them with Issues. The entire Family has a case against A&E. Loss of wages and the Public views on this.

    I hope that The Robertsons take A&E to the cleaners on this. It is really a shame that the people that run A&E are so on the side of the people that only have maybe 7% of the people GLAAD behind them on this. GO DUCKS

  • timberlane10

    I'm 110% behind Phil's right to his freedom of speech rights, irrespective on any (alleged) moral clause he MAY have with A & E .

    I'm fed up with the liberal left dictating policy for the other 95% of us.

    The irony of ironies is A & E (finally) HAD a #1 show.

    I'd bet $$$$ that Duck Dynasty will be picked up in a nanosecond by another network, and for more money to boot.

    Talk about being foisted on 1's own petard A & E

    • serdude1968

      that's “hoisted”

  • erica

    This show is suppose to be Christians. I didn't know that reading from a Bible is wrong on television or in public. I thought this was America home of the free. Well don't we have freedom of speech or is that a crime now too.

    • wtf2014lol

      It is far more than biblical immorality. It covers anything that causes harm to the employer. “The actor (actress) agrees to conduct himself (herself) with due regard to public conventions and morals and agrees that he (she) will not do or commit anything tending to degrade him (her) in society or bring him (her) into public hatred, contempt, scorn or ridicule, or tending to shock, insult or offend the community or outrage public morals or decency”

  • metazip

    A&E'S ACTIONS ARE A DILEMMA.
    JUST WHAT IS A DILEMMA?

    WELL, THERE'S NOTHING BETTER THAN AN
    EXAMPLE TO ILLUSTRATE THAT.

    IMAGINE THAT YOU ARE LAYING IN A BIG BED WITH
    A BEAUTIFUL NAKED YOUNG WOMAN ON ONE SIDE
    AND A GAY MAN ON THE OTHER.

    WHO ARE YOU GOING TO TURN YOUR BACK ON?

    • gman

      Metazip, that one made me laugh….out loud!

    • wtf2014lol

      CAP LOCK key broken? Only children and morons type in caps!

      • metazip

        I would never say you are ugly, but when you go to the beach to
        lie in the sand, cats try to bury you….

  • john

    Lets break down what the constitution means when it says that congress cannot create any laws regarding religion. It means that congress or no form of government body can create a national religion ie. The church of England which stated all citizens of the country of England will be catholic which their king ruled just. This is the reason for people coming to America and also for those who have forgot the freedom of religion to practice whatever religious beliefs they want there for A&E hurt themselves without vaseline by punishing him for religious statement because there is law protecting him from their actions. Sue them all and move to a new network and keep putting out a wholesome family friendly show

  • John Ketchersid

    Since when is the 1st amendment something that can be nullified within a contract. Such an action would of course make that specific clause null. It would not likely nullify the entire contract due to a clause commonly restricting nullification based upon a singularly illegitimate clause. However, based upon the fact that Mr. Robertson made NO hateful remarks what so ever. He did in fact state that he and his family “Love'em all” His statement that a definition written in the Bible is from whence he draws his definition of sin, in no way implies any form of hatred, disgust, annoyance or any other form of negative emotional content. Quite simply put I am aghast at the actions of my gay brothers and sisters within GLAAD whom have taken it upon themselves to cause in a direct manner the loss of livelihood of a person because of their personal views. There are many alternative lifestyles that have relied greatly upon the 1st amendment in order to overcome stigma and injustice based upon their personal choices, views and speech. Now because a fellow states that he loves'em all has his words taken out of context to the greater degree and is castigated for it.

    His views are not even at the forefront of this brutal, violent and utterly despicable act. While his father served in the military to protect the sanctity of the 1st amendment (yes I'm sure you have views on that as well). He seems not to be afforded the same protection under the law?! What a horrid thing to perpetrate. I am sorely saddened by the filth that has collected within our community spirit to attack a person in this manner for stating his opinion.

    Utterly astonishing. There are honestly no words to express the sorrow I feel from witnessing this insipid dark spirited action just because someone is different.

    The rainbow flag should be replaced with something more suited to the actions exhibited by my brothers and sisters. Maybe an image of liberty handcuffed and and being beaten with a gavel.

    • serdude1968

      It is not about the First Amendment. DEMANDING THE RIGHT TO BE PAID BY AN EMPLOYER WHO BELIEVES THAT YOU ARE NOT FULFILLING THE TERMS OF A CONTRACT is not the same as demanding the right to speak. You guys actually LOVE big government when you can use it for your own purposes.

      • wtf2014lol

        Ignorant Rednecks don't understand Law

  • Denise

    Are these reporters this stupid…? What they are claiming as anti gay remarks was what is written in the Bible… So now no one can state what is written in the Bible without repercussions? How long is it going to be before the activist groups are trying to get the wording of the Bible changed to where it doesn't offend the life style they have chosen….

  • jhp151

    Even with a morals clause, A&E may still be in trouble. This is an issue of clashing moral values. As A&E likely wrote the contract, a question of interpretation favors the other party. It depends on A&E's specific wording in this area.

  • joe blow

    He may have answered the question without even realizing it. He said their signed as a family, I believe this should also mean they must be kept or terminated as a team. The other option is to just screw A&E, if not by quitting the show just wink to your followers make it boring as hell and then A&E just dumps the program. One thing is sure here supporters of GLAAD see this situation as overwhelmingly in favor of A&E even so much as to the point they feel they can dictate to the rest of the family left over. A&E is in trouble here and it seems even their logistical evaluators still don't know it yet.

  • cjones636

    Sooooo, does that mean i can open up a store and only hire christians and fire anyone bad mouthing conservatives or expressing any beliefs that i do not agree with?

    • Ashitari T

      Only if you secede and become and separate from America. Then you can do as you wish.

    • serdude1968

      In fact, you can start a newspaper and refuse to hire a columnist who expresses views contrary to your newspaper's views. But go ahead and playl the victim. You lost the Civil War. Get over it, whiney baby!

  • j detrick

    Sorry media , you have totally twisted this article. He is not antigay, he is referring to the bible beliefs. He said he loves all and does not discriminate nor judge his fellow mankind, as he leaves that up to our almighty maker to judge. Why are the media and liberal groups making this offensive. Shame on you all !

    • serdude1968

      He compared gays to terrorists.

    • wtf2014lol

      It is far more than biblical immorality. It covers anything that causes harm to the employer. “The actor (actress) agrees to conduct himself (herself) with due regard to public conventions and morals and agrees that he (she) will not do or commit anything tending to degrade him (her) in society or bring him (her) into public hatred, contempt, scorn or ridicule, or tending to shock, insult or offend the community or outrage public morals or decency”

  • red

    the minorities take an eighth of an inch at a time…now they have the whole pie. so sad

    • serdude1968

      Yeah, all the senators, congressmen, Presidents, governors, corporation presidents, heads of major banks — they are all gay now, aren't they, and you can't even find a church because the gays closed them all.

  • Name

    Yes, that is what the legal professor said. (or more properly the professor of legalese.)
    I once convered a trial of Indians accused of poaching; they parked a federally provided van on a logging company overpass and fired automatic weapons into a herd of cow elk on their calving grounds, owned by the logging company–at night with spotlights, None of that was permitted before the jury as too inflammatory. The defense was that Indians had a treaty right to hunt anywhere on open and unclaimed land. There were no condos on the logging company property–imagine that–so it was open ground. AND therefore unclaimed, was the agrument; a tree farm is not a claim. The judge and the lawyers spent hours, hours, parsing the meaning of “and” where it fell between open AND unclaimed.
    So taking a moral stance can of course get you fired under a morals clause. As they told Alice in Wonderland, you have have jam tomorrow or yesrerday, but you can never have jam TODAY.
    I'd like to see a maverick lawyer go to court for a ruling on the definiton of “moral” if that is if in fact the name of this clause. If the TV attorneys wrote the contract, long established legal practicce is that dispute over ambiguity must be considered weighted in favor of the non-drafting party. A lay preacher and duck hunter reading and agreeing to a clause not to say or do immoral things clearly would have a different view of morality than Monday morning quarterbacking by queers. (I refuse to use the term “gay” in relation to this nastly little queen fight; nothing approaching “gay” about it. So was the intent of the drafters of the contract to forbid incorrect political statements, or preserve morals? If the former and it is not clearly spelled out within the four corners of the document,and there are no appended definitions of morality, I think a court would be within its authority to analyse the language–contracts ARE a matter of law, and laws derive ultimately from the Congress which is the legislative branch. If contract law existing under Congressional and state implied,inferred or actual permission creates these ambiguities that are interpreted to sience speech deemed controversial, then the professor of legalese may well be misaken in his assessment..
    Get it before a court, let the court decide whether this a free speech element and if lost, then appeal, appeal, appeal.Let's see if the duck-hunting Supreme Court justices recuse themselves.

  • Glenn Clayton

    He also made anti-Black remarks that why he was giving some time off he WAS NOT fired!!!!

  • Wildwood Castle

    This is just another example of how speaking the truth will get you in trouble. All sexual sin or fornication is condemned under Biblical teaching. This includes the example Yeshua gave that for a man to even think of another's wife in a sexual way, he has broken the Law. Of course I mean the Law of God not the corrupted precepts of men. Yes, do not judge. But do not change wrong to appear as right. A&E would gladly allow someone to spout perversion but quote the Bible and it could cost you your job…

  • Nathan Burks

    I find it ironic that this article mentions a “morals” reason for firing Robertson, when in fact he was denouncing what he believes to be Immoral behavior..Sounds like a media cop out to me..id also bet that if this were a case of a pro gay person getting fired, the ACLU would be all over this

  • Eileen Clark

    I'm calling my Governer not to allow GAY marriages in our state! We voted against it and stand by that! What these weirdos do behind closed doors I don't want to know! I do know sex is great between a man and a woman and have no interest in finding out about any other way! I don't watch Sean Saves The World because it's about a gay guy! So they gays don't need to worry about old Phil and Duck Dynasty. I am going to start a group AGAINST GAY TV BECAUSE IT'S AGAINST THE BIBLE GROUP. Why not? Apparently it's vogue to be in a group. Is that a Yuppie thing?

    • serdude1968

      Make sure your Governor also insists that people learn how to spell correctly.

      • Eileen Clark

        Branson MO, Springfield MO and all the rest of MISSOURI are behind the Robertsons and ALL our churches are PREACHING on SUNDAY EXACTLY what Phil said! We are one of the BIBLE States and PROUD of it. MISSOURI AND ARKANSAS BACK THE ROBERTSONS AND GUESS WHERE THE HEADQUARTERS OF WALMART IS,,,, ARKANSAS!

        • wtf2014lol

          Rednecks and Sheep

    • bytownhome

      You have a wrong opinion so you were insulted for your spelling a word wrong.

      • Eileen Clark

        Nope same feelings AROUND THE WORLD! Funny though, how ANYTHING with PHIL'S name on it is SOLD OUT! Phil and his family are laughing ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK!

        • wtf2014lol

          WRONG, I've seen lots of their poor quality cr*p hanging up in stores. Not sold out!

  • Bob

    It is against the law to discriminate against a person over their religious beliefs. There is no contract that overrides law. Christianity considers homosexual behavior to be a sin and always has since the beginning of Christianity. The Catholic Church considers this behavior a sin. There are 78 million Catholics in America. Are these people declaring war on Christianity saying you can't openly have your beliefs? ?

    • serdude1968

      If someone has a religion that says that having sex with children is doing their “god's” work, and that person is being paid for their words, does that person have the right to be paid by someone who does not think that saying those words or encouraging that behavior is appropriate?

      • Bob

        First, there is no such religion but it does apply to Islam, Hindu, Christianity and even satanist like it or not. You can require that religion not be addressed on the job but you can not control a person's religious beliefs outside the job. You as a viewer then have the right to not watch the person on TV and if ratings drop you cancel his show due to ratings, not due to his beliefs. But of course you folks don't want to play fair because you know what would happen. Higher ratings. And your agenda would lose.

    • wtf2014lol

      It is far more than biblical immorality. It covers anything that causes harm to the employer. “The actor (actress) agrees to conduct himself (herself) with due regard to public conventions and morals and agrees that he (she) will not do or commit anything tending to degrade him (her) in society or bring him (her) into public hatred, contempt, scorn or ridicule, or tending to shock, insult or offend the community or outrage public morals or decency”

  • mrs robinson

    Um actually, to the writer of the article, I think because he is a white southerner a very important civil right is being ignored or conveniently forgotten: http://employment.findlaw.com/employment-discrimination/title-vii-of-the-civil-rights-act-of-1964-equal-employment.html

    • wtf2014lol

      He signed a contract that limits his rights. It's his fault.

  • ian

    I find this funny looka sodum and gamora god riened down with righteous fury on them because they were being gay men and woman alike the thing that our era thinks are perfectly fine and pay to watch he wa only saying what is real men weren't ment to marry men woman either we were ment to procreate not play n poo . and I agree with him he shouldn't b condoned for his beliefes in god n bible cus up till recently the church didn't approve of homosexualality so why should he b punishished for his beliefs ? doesn't he have the right to freedom of speech ? to say what he feel and believes no one has to agree but no one has to b punished either if u don't like it don't watch it . if u you do then continue on grow up get over it . god didn't create man n women to not b together if he wanted gays he would of made two men or two women not a man and women .

  • ian

    and this convo is about what he said u guys took it to about the bible its self and who wrote what . and no one knows who really wrote the first copy down its believed the roman s had people put it together to have some kind of written word of it after they accepted Christianity . so it a group of storys really passed by word of mouth mostly until the romans had it written down . and I say reinstate him give him a raise !!!

  • re

    Advise to the duck people shop around for a new station.
    I am sure other stations will pay your fee for leaving

  • Jacobi Coriolanus

    He is free to say what he wants under the first amendment. The network is free to take disciplinary action towards his employment. His beliefs are sincere and a correct interpretation of Christianity.

    Where people are screwing up is saying his statement is not what “Christians believe” or that its bigotry. Of course it is offensive to homosexuals and I wouldn't want to see his religion used as the basis for law as it is in so many other countries. It doesn't mean he can't hold those beliefs.

    It just means he can't say them and think because the fictional character god burned down Sodom and Gomorrah in a fairy tale that means he can keep his job. He should know, Jesus says you can't serve two masters :)

    • wtf2014lol

      Phil is 100% to blame, because he signed a legal agreement.

      • Jacobi Coriolanus

        Phil isn't to blame for liberals who want to rewrite what Christians believe. And I'm an atheist who grew up in fundamentalist country, so don't think I'm opposed to disciplinary action. GLAAD's spokesman was 100% wrong when he claimed Phil's statements were antithetical to Christian teachings and the number of apologists saying that's no longer the case for most people is like saying when Dodi Fayed slammed into a wall with Di while drunk and the 9/11 hijackers conspired at the California Cheetah's club that Islam turned on its head. I assure you that in Iran women are still punished for appearing out of burqa and in Venezuela getting an abortion is punishable by incarceration.

        If you mean Phil is in trouble with A & E because of a morals clause then I suggest you look up reading comprehension and read the last paragraph I wrote. I have no issue with punitive actions towards his employment, only idiots who don't get the bigger issue and are turning it into a Christianity is/isn't argument for their mutual political purposes. If I were a Sikh I'd have to wear a turban but I can't talk smack about people who don't just because the first amendment says my religion is protected. I can't advocate pork products be made illegal if I'm Islamic or Orthodox Jewish. And people can try to politically incorrect all they want but the Bible is pretty clear on the homosexual issue and anyone who says otherwise is either a coward about peer rejection unable to embrace the logic of atheism or a duplicitous used car salesman playing sophistic games to gear up support that Christianity and homosexual tolerance are mutually reconcilable.

        Too bad this isn't the thread where people tried to compare it to the apples and oranges case of Martin Brashir violating his morals clause as well and you'd think before constructing a strawman when technically you weren't saying anything different, other than missing the whole point of my comment. I said a network can take action against anyone and has on many occasions, whether its Bill Maher making a plausible case that cruise missiles are more cowardly than kamikaze box cutter boarding tickets or Dog the Bounty Hunter and Hulk Hogan expressing an interest in their daughters maintaining ethnic purity in dating relationships. What you say can and will be used against you, because in the end its all about dollar signs and they don't care what these clowns do on the air if it gets people watching but if not you're hitting them where its not allowed… clear enough for you?

  • Guest

    I'm not anti anything, I believe everyone has the right to love who they want, worship whom they chose and speak their opinion. That being said if GLAAD is wanting to wage war because they aren't getting the response they expected and are going to ask for the companies that work with the Robertson's to drop them, why not make a statement and not purchase from companies that support GLAAD? Since they are promoting special rights, not equal rights and hate not tolerance….

  • fed up

    “I imagine if an atheist on an A&E show said things that A&E thought disapproved of homosexuality, they would deal with it the same way.”
    But if an atheist made disparaging remarks about Christians, would they have been dealt with in the same way? Make no mistake, what Phil said came direct from the bible, so as far as I'm concerned, he was suspended for his religious beliefs! If I'm not mistaken, the same law that prevents gay from being fired for their sexual orientation is supposed to prevent someone from being fired for their religious beliefs? This action was a direct attack on Christians, plain and simple!!

    • wtf2014lol

      It is far more than biblical immorality. It covers anything that causes harm to the employer. “The actor (actress) agrees to conduct himself (herself) with due regard to public conventions and morals and agrees that he (she) will not do or commit anything tending to degrade him (her) in society or bring him (her) into public hatred, contempt, scorn or ridicule, or tending to shock, insult or offend the community or outrage public morals or decency”

  • Matt Meyers

    I am a duck dynasty fan. I applaud the Robertson's call to arms to surround and defend Phil. I am a Christian and I believe in the bible, and while I may believe alternative lifestyles are a sin according to the bible, the one thing God gave us was the opportunity to make our own decisions. I have friends that live alternative lifestyles and I hold no ill will towards them. I believe that everyone should make choices based on what makes them happy, because in the end, only they have to face God in the end. Who am I to tell someone how to live their lives. I believe that GLAAD needs to drop their agenda of pushing their lifestyles onto everyone else. People are allowed to have their own beliefs and opinions, we do not have to agree or accept your lifestyle.

  • cudakite

    This is absolutely typical of the well-intentioned PC folks. The facts suggest tolerance is only for those who agree with them. Accept their agenda or have it forced down your throat.

    • wtf2014lol

      WRONG. If you don't want to be muzzled, then don't be an actor, period!

      Phil is the moron for becoming an actor.

  • serdude1968

    For those who believe that Robertson's rights were violated, a simple question:

    If
    a very well-paid host on a Christian TV network came out in favor of
    homosexual relationships, or even came out as a homosexual himself, and
    the network terminated his contract because it went against what his job
    responsibilities were — WOULD YOU ALL BE CLAIMING THAT THIS GUY'S
    “CONSTITUTIONAL” FREEDOM OF SPEECH WAS VIOLATED? Is someone OBLIGATED to give money to someone (Robertson) who is not fulfilling a contractual agreement?

    Silly, silly whiners. You have every right to be angry if your interpretation of religion tells you to, but stop the hypocrisy. And you conservatives who
    believe in “property rights” — don't you believe that the OWNERS of the
    network have the right to determine if someone is fulfilling the job
    responsibilities properly, or do you want BIG GOVERNMENT to intervene?
    Sure you do….on YOUR side.

    Seriously, do you believe that Christians have no voice on television stations, radio stations, publications, no politicians support Christianity and it is impossible
    to find a church anywhere in the USA anymore? Do you REALLY believe
    Christians are powerless just because some liberal in the entertainment media criticize them? CRYBABIES !

    So protest if you want. Boycott if you want, but stop whining….you sound worse than some of the more whiney types of liberals.

    Oh,
    and for those who believe it is a “sin.” Okay, let's for a minute,
    assume that homosexuality is a sin….(of course, what IS homosexuality?
    Is it the behavior, or the “feelings?” Can one have the feelings
    without the behavior? Or the behavior without the feelings? …but okay,
    let's pretend it is a “sin” for a minute.)

    WHY IS THAT THE SIN THAT YOU ALL ARE SO OBSESSED WITH? I mean, seriously, it doesn't even make it into the most famous, most renowned, most often posted in public places “BIG TEN” of the Thou Shalt Not Commandments. So why are there no such intense feelings about the thieves and liars (those are in the
    “Big Ten”), especially the corporate ones? Why are you so obsessed with
    homosexuality? So obsessed….hmmmm

    Stop whining. Protest if you want but stop acting as if Christians have no rights in the USA. You look silly.

    • wtf2014lol

      It is far more than biblical immorality. It covers anything that causes harm to the employer. “The actor (actress) agrees to conduct himself (herself) with due regard to public conventions and morals and agrees that he (she) will not do or commit anything tending to degrade him (her) in society or bring him (her) into public hatred, contempt, scorn or ridicule, or tending to shock, insult or offend the community or outrage public morals or decency”

  • Donny

    Phil is right, his consitutional rights say that he has the freedom of speech.

    • serdude1968

      It is not about the First Amendment. DEMANDING THE RIGHT TO BE PAID BY
      AN EMPLOYER WHO BELIEVES THAT YOU ARE NOT FULFILLING THE TERMS OF A
      CONTRACT is not the same as demanding the right to speak. You guys
      actually LOVE big government when you can use it for your own purposes.

  • Truth

    He was asked what is sinful and he goes on to say numerous things are
    sinful all according to things which are stated in the Bible. The
    problem ultimately isn't with Phil. The problem is with man's pride and
    failure to humble themselves before a righteous God who would have us to
    lead Holy lives. We can't pick and choose what constitutes right and
    wrong – it is mandated by the higher authority – The same authority you
    will stand before on Judgment day to give account of your sins. Phil's
    comments are construed as hate – when in actuality – if you would take
    it to heart, and repent of these sins, and accept Christ as your savior -
    You could spend eternity in paradise instead of going to hell. God
    leaves the choice to us – it's really what life is all about and an act
    of love not hate which motivates Phil to warn you about your sin.

  • Terry Smith

    Duck Dynasty was doing very well before the show. Obviously they are doing better now. I really believe if it comes down to it the Robertson's would stick to their guns and beliefs and end the show before giving into the corporate machine. They all seem like they would be okay no matter what.

    • wtf2014lol

      Duck Dynasty is the show, not their business.

  • gman

    Seems most of you commenters are Christians….what exactly does that mean? That you believe in the Bible? That Jesus is the son of God and died for your sins? That the only way to have everlasting life is through him? That must be it…..because it sure as hell doesn't mean that you will follow the example of his life in regard to love and compassion toward all people…..especially those with whom you disagree. The religion you have created allows you to segregate yourself from those you dislike and allows you to say and do what you please to these people, all while hiding behind a Bible. You then depend on grace and forgiveness to make it all OK again while you DO nothing. Do you wonder why people are leaving religion at record rates? It's what you DO that matters, not what you SAY!

    • vic gabucan

      Gman, please read the Bible! May God bless you, amen!

      • gman

        Hi Vic! I have read it many times, and in many different translations. I taught for many years, and in fact, am an ordained minister of the Christian faith. However, I could not turn a blind eye to the departure from Christianity that today's version of religion embraces. It is not OK to sit in church and judge others while usually within a mile of the church door you can find all types of marginalized people. The very ones you would most likely find Jesus among of he were here. Today's pastors are in an awful position of having to make the membership happy or lose the finances. Nobody wants to hear that we should be among the sick, poor, tormented, etc all the time, not just once or twice a year. Our mission is to help all that need it, with love and compassion….. just like Christ. Not make the 10am to 12pm period on Sundays the most segregated two hours of the week. And certainly not stand in judgment of others. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, for this is the greatest commandment….. the second greatest is love thy neighbor as thyself. Who are your neighbors Vic, and do they only look, think, and act like you? I hope not. All too often, that is the case. It is this that drove me from the church and into service to others. Unfortunately I am finding far more nonreligious people in the trenches, working on behalf of others than Christians. If we would all care more about the example we set, there would not be enough churches to hold all the people. I hope you have a wonderful Christmas Vic, and if you aren't already, find a place where you live that serves others and volunteer…. I promise you, that you will be the one that is truly blessed….. Set that example!

      • wtf2014lol

        Reading the bible is the #1 reason why people leave christianity

  • Cirric Fylenco

    I hope Phil and the family just quits making the show. Theyre billionaires! They can keep making money on their products, they don't have to keep the show going. I would way rather they do that then Phil selling his soul to those liberal bastards.

    • wtf2014lol

      He is the moron that signed the tv contract, so its his own stupid fault

  • vic gabucan

    One of USA silent majority, Phil Robertson voiced out his opinion and belief (freedom of speech) of what is right and what is wrong

  • hello?

    So does it say In The Bible it's ok to discriminate? To make people of color sit in the back of the bus? Go to inferior schools? That and MUCH worse was daily life pre civil right laws in the 60's.
    Phil seems to think life was better for people if color then?
    He is stupid or racist?
    Only he knows I guess!

  • Lowry Shank

    Phil probably wants to end this crap before one of his granddaughters ends up married to some Kayne West wannabe. Talk about wasting a couple cases double XX buck. lol.

    • wtf2014lol

      She'll marry a gay guy

  • Patriot

    Hey Morons, Phil doesn't give a shit about the series! He was only doing it for the kids! He doesn't even think about it cause he doesn't care. Why don't you just get a life!

  • Tree

    How many queens and pointy headed liberal academics does the network think watch a show about backwoods Christian duck hunters? They decide to offend the majority of their watchers instead. It's their right to be stupid, just like Phil.

  • these folks crazy!

    don't be intolerant of conservatism and expect me to be tolerant of liberalism.

    • linnilu

      Best comment yet.

    • wtf2014lol

      It doesn't have jack to do with your ignorant beliefs

  • EL Dean

    rock on tim4

  • Hoot63

    I enjoy DD and find it to be refreshing compared to shows like two and half men which I also enjoy the comedy. Phil is entitled to his opinions just like everyone in this country. while A&E is entitled to protect themselves they could have solved this easily by just stating that his views are his own and not of theirs. Since they didn't do this I expect the family to stick together and the show will not be renewed. when the contract comes up again. Also note that I support Phil and the Robertson family.

    • The Great and Powerful Turtle

      A&E have totally got their PR wrong with the firing,a low key reprimand and a distancing of the network from the comments would have been the right way to go…now it might cost the network $100smillions for something easy to resolve..

  • LeAnn Lipps Robertson

    Easy enough to move. Go to a different network and change the name. I don't think all of us rednecks are too stupid to realize that Duck Commander is the same organization as Duck Dynasty. Also, Phil was a millionaire before A&E and he will remain a millionaire after this is done.

    • wtf2014lol

      Since the show is worth 100's of millions of dollars, then Duck Commander can pay 100's of millons of dollars to A&E, then go do what they want!

  • lumbee1

    In the days of B&W 35mm film, I documented the KKK & the Nuwaubians, a
    BLACK supremacist organization. It doesn't mean I share their beliefs.

    If this is a documentary, A&E has nothing to answer for, but as we know, it is as fully
    scripted as an episode of “Leave it to Beaver”, A&E and this moron's family are watching as his big mouth literally eats hundreds of thousand dollars. Millions.
    In “the Show Biz” they call it going “off book”. Oops

    A true documentarian would be entirely nonplussed by the expression
    of such a sentiment. Indeed it is merely another interesting facet of
    one or more of the subject(s).
    It's called “life”, we don't all agree.

    “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”

    ~Voltaire

  • BAW

    I disagree with the author's legal analysis. If Phil's comments had been anti-gay as the press has portrayed them, they'd be right. But the fact is what he said was not “anti-gay” it was a statement of opinion based on religious teaching that homosexuality is a sin. And in the larger context of everything he said, it is not offensive to the vast majority of people.

    In most cases I'd agree the employer can probably just “deem” something offensive and that't the end of it but…. religion is a protected class.

    It can definitely be argued he was fired for being Christian, for stating a Christian belief. And it would be up to a jury to decide.

    It reality it would (as most legal arguments sadly do) come down to who had the better lawyers.

    I don't know that the Robertsons would even want to sue. But just accusing A&E of violating the Civil Rights Act and making the argument in court, might be a principled stand in defense of Christianity they want to take. In which case, I wouldn't want to be A & E.

    • MaroonVee

      correct, Title VII of the Civil Rights ACT prohibits workplace discrimination against regligious beliefs. A moral clause… that you can't state what's in the Bible? The article's legal experts are soooo wrong. Would AE argue that stating parts of the Bible is morally wrong? it's laughable.

      • BAW

        Basically the argument my lawyer daughter made. You can fire someone for no reason but you can't fire them because of their religion. At least a good lawyer would make the argument and a really good lawyer would probably win.

        But we also joked around about A&E attempting to hold the family to the contract. We agreed that the Robertsons could say, fine follow us around and film all you like. We'll just pray for you every time you turn on the camera:)

    • wtf2014lol

      It is far more than biblical immorality. It covers anything that causes harm to the employer. “The actor (actress) agrees to conduct himself (herself) with due regard to public conventions and morals and agrees that he (she) will not do or commit anything tending to degrade him (her) in society or bring him (her) into public hatred, contempt, scorn or ridicule, or tending to shock, insult or offend the community or outrage public morals or decency”

      • BAW

        With all the “immorality” we see in the entertainment industry you seriously want to argue that the real “immorality” is a man who quotes scripture and gives his layman's interpretation? Just the expression of opinions and ideas is one of the worst things you can do?

        That's fine. I just think it would make a very weak argument in court before a jury of average Americans.

        The left has done an outstanding job of basically eliminating all public standards of decency and morality, since they had to excuse what Bill Clinton did in the Oval Office with a woman young enough to be his daughter. And they have put in a great deal of time and effort into making conservative values and views seem to be the real offenders of sensibilities but I think it's like so many other things the left believes and promotes. When put out on full public display, the vast majority of Americans see how incredibility wrong and insane it is. But we'll see.

  • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 aemoreira81

    What Robertson really needs to see is for A&E to can the show so that his family can then shop the show to another network, who is likely to pick it up. (Unlike most reality programs, A&E owned this one.) However, at the age of 67, Robertson may not need the TV money anymore, as his family may already be set. That said, if his family decides to leave, I would not be surprised if they simply waited out the noncompete period.

    • wtf2014lol

      Since the show is likely worth 100's of millions of dollars, then he can pay A&E 100's of millions of dollars, then they can go do what they want.

      • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 aemoreira81

        A&E is smart enough to know that another network could benefit at its expense…I could see A&E refusing the payment and instead invoking the noncompete (i.e., if A&E can't make the money, no network can). Anything involving the Duck Commander is a separate issue altogether, as the Robertson family own that.

    • charlie

      They had a successful show even before A&E took them, It was called Benelli presents Duck commander. They could start this show again and be just fine.

  • MaroonVee

    so let me get this straight… the family is sticking by dad;s comments .. and his beliefs.. so what is AE going to do, shut down the Christmas Special and the next season already shot? AE is making complete fools of themselves and showing what hypocirts they are .

  • MaroonVee

    morality clause? Stating what's in the Bible is immoral? Give me a break, AE is really going to use that in a court of law? hahahaha.

    • wtf2014lol

      It is far more than biblical immorality. It covers anything that causes harm to the employer. “The actor (actress) agrees to conduct himself (herself) with due regard to public conventions and morals and agrees that he (she) will not do or commit anything tending to degrade him (her) in society or bring him (her) into public hatred, contempt, scorn or ridicule, or tending to shock, insult or offend the community or outrage public morals or decency”

  • MaroonVee

    “It doesn’t sound like they were taking him off the show because they don’t like the fact that his message is religious; I think they don’t like the fact that his message is anti-gay,” Volokh said. “And people of various religions and no religions, some of them are anti-gay. and i imagine if an atheist on an A&E show said things that A&E thought disapproved of homosexuality, they would deal with it the same way.”
    Where do you find these dumb A@@ lawyers… an atheist doesn't have religious protections because they don't have a religion.
    Title VII of the Civil Rights ACt.. workplace discrimination based on religious beliefs. Phil is a pastor, can't get more religious than that.

  • Cathy CC.

    He is worth 15 mill, seriously think he doesnt give a shit.

    • wtf2014lol

      Since the shows could be worth 100's of millions of dollars, then it's a lot more than 15 mil at risk.

  • charlie

    I think that your experts need to understand that unlike the other states in the union Louisiana is ruled by Napoleonic law. And according to our law. Taken from the Louisiana statutes,( Louisiana law specifically covers employment discrimination on the basis of race, creed, color, religion, national origin, sex, disability, and age.) If a case were to be filed and brought before a jury in the state of Louisiana what side do you think they will favor in such a case?

    • wtf2014lol

      It's possible that he is treated as an employee of a New York company, thus Lousiana laws don't apply. It's also possible that as part of his legal work agreement that all legal matters might be required to be done in the state of New York, thus Lousiana laws don't apply either. Sometimes companies will put these types of clauses in their contracts to ensure they don't have to fight a battle far from their headquarters.

  • Sherrie Davis

    WTF2014lol, Then the same should apply to all that tending to shock, insult or offend the community or outrage public morals or decency. Christians are shocked and outraged that in their workplace they have to be tolerant to free speech from gays about their lifestyle. The same laws that keep gays from being fired for this activity also states that you can't be fired for your religious beliefs. So if religious beliefs can't be discussed by a Christian in the work place then homosexual discussions should also be halted at the door of your employers so that 90% of their employees are not offended. You can't demand that certain sectors of a population not share their view while other sectors are entitled to free speech.

  • Sam Cro

    EEOC, equal rights both jokes by limo liberals and gays.

  • Charlene Scott

    the EEOC enforces laws
    that prohibit discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, national
    origin, disability, or age in hiring, promoting, firing, setting wages,
    testing,
    training, apprenticeship, and all other terms and conditions of employment.
    Race, color, sex, creed, and age are now protected classes.

  • RGlenCheek

    “It doesn’t sound like they were taking him off the show because they don’t like the fact that his message is religious; I think they don’t like the fact that his message is anti-gay,” <- stupid comment; what if your religion is 'anti-gay' meaning has common sense prescriptions against homosexuality?

    And I wouldn't take the word of Hollyweird lawyers for jack anyway.

  • Jeremy

    Go to love how being a Christian is an excuse to be a horrible excuse for a human being. Religion is a cancer on humanity.

  • Udontgetit

    option 1) go fishing… Option 2) make turtle soup…. Option 3) laugh at all these internet yappers with panties in large knotted bunch… option 4) take vacation…

  • Sharon Fowler

    phil expressed his view which he happens to share with a large percent of america, it may have been said in a crude way, but that's who he is, A&E knew that. he's a good family man, leave him alone, merry christmas

  • Duck Lover

    Obviously A&E is run by a bunch of gay's, Phil's family should take a stand that if Phil's off the show, so are we. Willie will have every network knocking his door down to sign the show. What network wouldn't want the #1 show in America? A&E, that's right, Phil he gone! The rest of the Robertson's too!

  • chevy2427

    I don't see Volokh could come to the conclusion that Phil would have no stance for the basis of discrimination of religion. 1-Phil is a preacher. Meaning his religion is established & he beliefs are “sincerely held” religious beliefs. 2- A&E had prior knowledge of his religious beliefs. I am sure probably prior to the signing of the contract as well. 3- A&E censors by editing Jesus out of the prayer on the show. This was referred to in the article. 4-His “opinion” is platformed upon the scripture which he referred to in 1st Corinthians & Christ did also speak against fornication as well. This would be considered a “sincerely held” religious belief. 5- Federal EEOC covers Religious Discrimination protecting employees from harassment, retaliation, etc.. It currently has nothing protecting LGBT. 6- A&E does not overrule EEOC.

  • Scottg

    I'm sorry, I thought he lived in America and not the old communistic Russia that Ronald Regan work so hard to tear down. In America, the land of the free, he use to have the right to say and speak what we wanted. That is what freedom is suppose to be about not to mention his beliefs in his religion. I have a nephew who is gay and a sister in-law and I love them both. The real fact is and that the end results are he spoke both from what his religious beliefs are and used his freedom of speech to do it. So if A&E or anyone else tells him he can't do that what is next. HOW MANY FREEDOMS ARE Americans going to take from each day in and day out until you are nothing less but a communist dictator ship. IF A&E pulls him for this then he has the right to take them to court to and sue them for preventing him to exercise his basic freedoms as an American. What he did has nothing to do with A&E it has to do with his religious belief and his right as an American to speak out about his beliefs. Once 1 person stops another from those rights they themselves are breaking his constitutional right and no contract can hold up in court unless it states that he willingly is giving up his constitutional right as an American and religious belief. Remember CHURCH AND STATE is different and no law or contract can take that away from him. KEEP IT UP AMREICA AND eventually you'll be saying in the devil you trust. God Bless you PHIL and may god have mercy on those who are stopping you from bringing GOD back to America.

    • Scottg

      But one other thing. All those who really care what he said get a job and shut up all ready. Does what he said really hurt you???? If you don't like what he says then grab your remote and change the channel. Come on people, get a life, GET your potato chip or Twinkie eating a** off THE COUCH and do something that really matters with your life. Quit bellyaching and do something productive in your life other than worrying about what someone else is saying or is doing. Did his comment realty hurt you or are you unemployed and with no family to worry about so your so miserable you have to make someone else miserable. Get on your knees and pray, maybe then god will help you out so you don't have to worry about one persons comments and try to take away the religious beliefs of another. If you pray hard enough God might help take away your boredom so you don't have to worry about what others are doing.